Breaking: Terri Schiavo’s parents file emergency request with U.S. Supreme

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Terri Schiavo’s parents file emergency request with U.S. Supreme Court

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

[Guckert]

1. When do they appeal to the world court in the Hague????

[AlCzervik]

4. silly, Bush wouldn't allow that...even for Terry shiavo

[tuvor]

2. Just let GO. n/t

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

10. They cannot just let go.

Their financial and socio-political career future, and that of those who are goading them to do this, cannot allow just letting go.

Someday, the real and true story of what went on inside the Schindler "Inner Circle" will come out. What will be revealed will horrify many.

[Must_B_Free]

11. That's a tall order to ask when its your child

This must be horrible for the Schindlers. Just horrible.

[grannylib]

21. I am sure it is, but I have lost a child myself, and I truly believe there

are far worse things than death. I was fortunate enough to know my daughter's wishes, so there would not have been this kind of fight going on (since she had made it clear to me she would never want to 'live' like that) and though I am glad I was spared making that decision, I think it would be FAR worse to see her in a nursing home, to see her deteriorate, to see her unable to be with her children, to see them grow up, to know that she was just a shell - gift wrapping with no gift inside...
My heart does ache for them, but I can't say I understand their position. Part of a loving relationship is knowing when to let go.

[LiberalFighter]

33. Good thing that there weren't any children of that marriage

How much would those children had suffered if there were?

[GreenArrow]

31. it's easy to make one's own

Hells.

[tuvor]

37. They've had fifteen years to prepare.

Sorry to sound sarcastic, but how is that not true?

[YellowRubberDuckie]

16. They're pushing for the book and TV deals...

THEN they'll let go...
Duckie

[katsy]

3. Didn't expect that of them.

:sarcasm:

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

7. Exactly. It's ridiculous. I really haven't posted much on the subject,

but when I went to MSNBC to see what was 'up,' and I saw the Breaking News, I'm like, "WTF?"

[Warpy]

5. Oh, good gawd. How many times have they been turned down?

I know what the dynamic is, and I know they'll have nothing left when she goes, that her body has been the absolute center of their lives for fifteen years.

But come on, people. Getting turned down multiple times ought to give you a clue that it aint gonna happen.

[tnlefty]

26. Perhaps they'll get on with the living? They have each other as

a couple, 2 other kids that I know of. Grandkids? Friends, if they have any true ones left 'cause they'll be dropped quickly by the "funding friends" of the cause.

That's the best that I can hope for them.

[Carni]

39. They have two other children

and have suspended her in this state for 15 years.

They need to let go.

This poor woman put herself in this vegetative state because of the way she perceived that she looked... and yet her parents have had no qualms about blasting her photo world wide looking like a bed ridden shell of herself.

If I were her I would want to die so I could come back and haunt them.

[Craig3410]

6. Welcome to america....

where 165 judges can say you're wrong, and nothing stops you from going to another 700.


Honestly, we need a 30-strike law or something. They're just wasting judicial time.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

12. I hope this backfires on the GOP big time! Shouldn't have made

this a political issue to begin with (I know: obvious statement). I really haven't posted much on this issue, but the constant, 24-hour circus is just plain ridiculous.

[CatholicEdHead]

13. Just playing to the base

to get that "activist judges" propaganda that we all know is coming.

[Bellamia]

25. Why'd you pick another "700".....

Heavens to Betsy, that's Pat Roberston's number, as in 700 CLUB.
Doesn't seem like prayers have done much as yet.

[chookie]

34. Can this be considered a "frivolous lawsuit"?

I don't mean to be nasty. I have my own way of looking at this case, but I can empathize, to an extent, with the philosophical pro-life position which SOME of the supporters put forth, although I strongly object those bastards who are distorting or misrepresent the science to back up the philosophical argument -- but this has gone on, without ANY change of decision in the courts, ALL the courts.

Why is the Schindlers' endless re-trying of this case okay, whereas some poor soul who got maimed by medical malpractice, or on the job, who is being pressured by the Bush administration not to sue their "do-no-wrong" doctors in order "to keep insurance and medical costs down", who tries to get compensation, is laughed at by these Republicans? Another case of authoritarian hypocrisy?

Gee, it's one thing to want to preserve the life of a loved one, but I truly believe the judicial process has carefully investigated and weighed out this case over a period of many years. It's more cut and dry than any of Bush's infamous Texas executions, which he showed such "resolve" about, and yet a faction of people want to think there is some hope in this case. Truly, the wisdom in this case is to let go. The Schindlers had the right to contest the case in the first place, but why they continue to do so in such a high-profile and sometimes hysterical manner raises questions about their motivation beyond that of merely wishing to keep a loved one alive. ...

[alittlelark]

8. It will all be over soon, and they can just get on w/their lives.

This freak circus is just soooo wrong.

[ronnykmarshall]

9. Oh for the love of GAWD!!

There was this wonderful story on CNN about a lovely man that was dying of cancer. His ENTIRE family respected his wishes.

At this time in what "life" Terri Schiavo has, it should not be spent battling in court.

I pray that this poor lady passes away peacefully soon. This fucking zoo has shown the worst in people and not the best.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

15. Ronnyk, I love your "AbFab" pic!

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

20. Some AbFab photos for some 'relief.'

[ronnykmarshall]

42. Eddie? Yeah babe!!

No sweetie come and get me I can't find the stairs!!

[TheDebbieDee]

14. I guess once you start whorin' for the media......

it's hard to stop.

Hey! Schindlers! You've had more than your 15 minutes. STFU and move on with your pitiable lives.

[Cadence]

17. At what point do they violate the law by filing frivolous lawsuits?

This is why we have a limit on the number of appeals isn't it? Just because someone doesn't like the verdict they get doesn't mean they can inundate the court system with appeals until they do get a verdict they like. If everyone did this the courts would be too tied up to get anything done.

[BRLIB]

18. Frivolous litigation, court shopping .....

And the asswipes in Congress didn't want that for bankruptcy!!

[Terre]

19. Enough is ENOUGH!

It's been said by others, but I'll add my thoughts:

I used to actually feel sorry and sympathize for the Schindler's, but I've gone past that point, and now just feel contempt and anger. My sympathy up and left.

What a shame.

[VegasWolf]

22. Have they tried the War Crimes Tribunal yet? n/t

[Plaid Adder]

23. All right. Here's a question I haven't seen answered:

How much money are the Schindlers' lawyers making off this bullshit?!

I mean, the way I look at it, the Schindlers are basically out of their minds. They want Terri to be able to recover so bad that they have lost touch with reality. You know what, losing a child is a terrible thing and a lot of people go a little crazy when it happens to them. Their craziness happens to be driving the rest of the country crazy, but that's not entirely their fault (blame Tom DeLay, I do, it's more fun).

But. The lawyers do not have a child of their own dying. At some point, one of them should have said basta. They've got to know what they're doing is bullshit that has no chance of success. Why do they keep taking their money?

Ah well,

The Plaid Adder

[Erika]

27. They are getting "expenses" paid thru their non-profit org

to "support" Terri's "cause". How much, I don't know.

[Blue Diadem]

36. Saw a lawyer from the group representing Schindlers today and was shocked

Apparently he told the producers that there were outside groups influencing the Schindlers. He said some groups are using the family to advance their own agendas. When questioned about what he told the producers, he didn't deny it, he just talked around it.

He was also quoted as saying that he didn't feel anything would come of the further requests to the courts. He became uncomfortable and said they had the legal standing to do it. He also went on to say that thousands of calls from across the country are coming in, telling them every possible way to present the case to the courts..and that these calls continue to keep hope alive for the Schindlers.

I couldn't say for sure what show he was on. I'm thinking maybe Linda Vester. I just happened to catch his segment.

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[Heddi]

38. funniest. blog. ever

ha ha

[VegasWolf]

40. What's that? Speak up, I can't understand you. n/t

[Heddi]

45. I said

ngggghh

aaahhhh waaaaaaaahhh

(easily translated to: "Earlier tonight I made some home-made lumpia. Some of them were baked, although I deep fried two of them. They're to be dipped in a spicy curry sauce. I also made fried-rice to go with it. Please reconnect my feeding tube. Love, Terri")

[VegasWolf]

47. Oh Okay, why didn't you say so the first time. Say, do you

screw around. Mumumphy!

[Heddi]

48. Oh! I think I misspoke the first time

Instead of saying

Waaah aaahhhh uuunnnnn

I meant to say

aaaah waaah nnnnngggggggg

Sorry for the confusion.

Love,

Terri

[VegasWolf]

53. Snort, snicker and a very

mumphy argumm to you. Wanna go get a coke?

[Heddi]

55. uuuhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnn

Yeah. Just slip it through my tube. Do the suction method, you know...like a siphon.

[VegasWolf]

57. But that might hurt, I think that there is some

kind of size limit on that tube. But hey, I'll try anything once.

[Heddi]

59. Fuck that shit

didn't they hear me when I said

aaahhhh waaaa

I wasn't saying 'I want to live" I was saying "I WANT A MOTHERFUCKING COKE CLASSIC YOU STUPID ASSHOLES"

Tell them to put a fucking dryer vent sized fucking tube in my stomach. Shit--cut the fucking thing open and pour the fucking coke in. Bring a fucking CASE of the shit.

Dying makes ya thirsty, ya know

Love,
Ter

[VegasWolf]

64. You reallly shoulda said that in the 1st place! n/t

[Heddi]

66. Hey, I tried what can I say

Oh yeah. I can say

gggggggggggggggggggg

Hope that clears things up

Smooches,

T-to-the-izzle

[kypper]

44. "The Michael Schiavo Blog"

http://dieterri.blogspot.com/

This is twisted.

[Heddi]

46. To me, that's not funny

Terri's blog--funny.

Perhaps funny because, you know, people in PVS can't type on a blog. They can't really do anything, which is what makes it funny. And if she COULD type, I doubt she would type gutteral sounds (considering she makes the gutteral sounds, you know, because the part of her brain that controls language and speech is nothing but fluid).

Michael blog--stupid. It's not funny because Michael HAS the ability to post in a blog.

:shrug:

[kypper]

49. I didn't say it was

I stand by 'twisted'. It's still the yang to Terri's blog's ying.

[Heddi]

51. Oh I'm not saying you were

I was just giving my opinion.

As it stands, I have laughed so hard at Terri's blog as to almost render myself incontinent. I like the biting irony, the subtle wit.

THe Michael blog--ho hum....

mmmuuuuhhhhh uuuuuu

[kypper]

52. I still keep waiting for the

'braaaaaaaains' :)

[Heddi]

56. Eeeh! Terri's a Zombie

hah. That would make for a funny, if very limited-release movie.

[VegasWolf]

58. For the fundies, that would be

a Lesbian Zombie!

[Heddi]

63. No no--a black lesbian who has on-demand abortions

several times a month zombie.

who also believes in stem-cell research and free medical coverage for all Americans.

Why, it's SOCIALIST BLACK ZOMBIE LESBIAN ABORTIONIST ZOMBIE aaah..

save the children.

nnngg

Love,
T.

[VegasWolf]

65. Well, shit,

no wonder they are afraid of her.

[truthisfreedom]

28. who is paying these people? or are they being threatened?

what happened to their statement that they were going to let it go? did they ever say?

[bluestateguy]

29. I'd like it if the Supreme Court refused to even reply to them

Don't even send them a written denial. Just ignore it. It happens to everybody who applies for a job: their resume and cover letter goes down a rat hole somewhere and they don't even get a rejection letter.

[Walt Starr]

30. Pull the tube, we;re stuck in a persistent adjudicative state. n/t

[AussieDave]

32. I really do pity the Schindlers

they seem to have been brainwashed by the fundamentalist Christian extremists who have clustered around their daughter as a "cause" - being fed false hope and false promises. It's all going to end in tears and I wouldn't be surprised to hear of both Schindler parents passing away by the end of this year - of broken hearts.

Randall Terry, the False News Network and the rest couldn't give a rat's ass about Terri Schiavo as a person - to them she's just the vehicle to push their own agenda, and now that things aren't going their way they're going nuts - look for this issue to pull the trigger on the "nuclear option" to pack the courts with ideologically pure Scalia/Thomas clones.........

[Bugaboo]

50. I don't feel sorry for them

The thing that really gets me is the sheer irresponsibility of their request. Don't they realize that if they get their way - if they, her parents, get to overrule her HUSBAND, it will set a precedent that will send shock waves through our society as we know it. It will put into question right of married couples to be the primary decision makers for each other.

I'm a lesbian and already get to live in legal limbo where my wife's parents have decision making rights over a person I have lived with and loved for over twelve years. If the Schindlers get their way, it could put every single married couple into this exact same situation. Which is why the courts won't touch their case with a thousand foot pole.

That's when I start thinking that these people are really selfish bastards.

[montana_hazeleyes]

35. I'm afraid

all this is going to just rev up the protesters more and more and when Terri's body does finally shut down, some of the nuttier ones may get violent.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

41. We are witness to the classic Freudian defense mechanism of DENIAL.

The Shindlers have some sort of deepseated guilt/anxiety over Terri's incapacitation...maybe thoughts of personal responsibility regarding her eating disorder that caused this whole fiasco.

JB

[warrior1]

43. What part of No do they not understand?

.

[Heddi]

54. What happens in THIS scenario- Schindlers "win"

and Terri's feeding tube is reconnected.

Say that they are able to counter any organ failure that has no doubt occured since tube was removed.

So Terri is allowed to "live". Custody is granted to the Parents. THey are now her sole decision makers.

So the Schindlers, not being necessarily young, go on living for another 20 or 30 years, the entire time, Terri is hooked up to a feeding tube (and at some point, a respirator, ventillator, etc) and just 'vegging out' (pun intended) for that whole 20 or 30 years.

What happens when the Schindlers die? Does Terri then have to remain in a TOTALLY permanent vegetative state FOREVER?

Technically, someone can live technically forever while they're hooked up to artificial means of life support. So how long after her parents die is she allowed to die as well? Would guardianship be appointed then to any living siblings, who also stand by their parents and disagree with the removal of life support? What happens when THEY die?

Theoretically, Terri could live for another 130 years as long as she has life support measure in place to keep her vital organs "functioning" (I would argue that the Brain is THE most vital organ, but that seems to be lost on many who are Anatomically and physiologically impaired, so I'll leave that be).

If her parents "win", is this woman bascially sentenced to an unnatural life-span of being hooked up to more and more tubes, more and more monitors, as her life function decreases with every passing day?

Will my great-grand children be hearing about the 200 year old woman who is STILL hooked up to life-support machines because of the disagreement from her very distant relatives as to what to do with her body?

As much of my post is facetious, the main question is serious==what happens when her parents die? If they WiN any court case, will the idea of her ever "dying" be moot since there are medical procedures in place to prolong life even when it's not there?

[maddezmom]

60. CNN reporting: SCOTUS refuses to hear the Schaivo case

[Bugaboo]

62. Thank GOD

Every day I check the news to see if she's finally died and we can all have some peace.

[Career Prole]

61. BREAKING...The Court just minutes ago refused to hear the appeal.

Verbal report, Aaron Brown CNN Newsnight.

[Moderator]

67. locking

updated thread here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1355388