School Killer's Animated Terror (Flash film discovered: warning graphic)

[truthpusher]

The Smokinggun.com has discovered a flash film that was created by Jeff Weise. The film is quite disturbing, but gives some insight into what kind of an impact violence and violent images can have.

School Killer's Animated Terror
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Minnesota teen posted bloody Flash film late last year
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MARCH 23--The Minnesota teenager responsible for Monday's high school shooting spree last year created a violent, blood-soaked video that included an animated character shooting four people and blowing up a police car before committing suicide, The Smoking Gun has learned. Using the alias "Regret," Jeff Weise, 16, last October posted online a 30-second animation entitled "Target Practice." Click here to view Weise's crudely animated Flash production. Weise posted a second short, "Clown," several weeks after uploading "Traget Practice" to a popular multimedia web site. The 50-second "Clown" ends with one character apparently being strangled by the clown. In a brief bio accompanying his Flash animations, Weise described himself as "nothin but a Native American teenage-stoner-industrialist," whose favorite movies included "Dawn of the Dead," "Thunderheart," and "Lakota Woman." His favorite recording artists included Korn, Marilyn Manson, Rammstein, and John Lennon. The web page with links to Weise's two Flash animations includes his photo (seen above) and an e-mail address (edited) that the teen used when posting 34 comments on the web site nazi.org, where Weise used the handles "nativenazi" and "todesengel," which translates to "angel of death" in German. According to police, Weise's killing rampage began with the murder of his grandfather and the man's female companion and ended at Red Lake High School, where he killed an unarmed security guard, a teacher, and five fellow students before apparently committing suicide. Seven others were wounded, including two teenage victims who remain in critical condition at a North Dakota hospital.

flash link at Smokinggun.com(warning): http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0323051weise1.html

Frame samples:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0323051weise1.html

[alittlelark]

1. I should not have clicked on that

It is quite disturbing. The cartoon nature of it made it even more disturbing. I wonder if he was into violent video games?

[tubbacheez]

2. I wouldn't be surprised. A violent personality finds ways to express. nt

[burrowowl]

26. I don't think he was

a 'violent personality'. He was a teen and took his own horrors into the real world.
Very sad and what be it Anglo, Native American, etc. is our 'society' in Facist/Corporatist U$ coming to?
It has been here for a long while: murder rates, enprisionment, no care for the people, the rape of the commons, the adoration of wealth (BAAL) even by the underclasses, etc.

[tubbacheez]

27. I think your idea and my idea of what a "violent personality" is...

... be different.

Perhaps I should've used the phrase "a violence-prone" personality... or even a "psychological vulnerability to violence"... to describe what I meant.




There are subtle things in the mind that manifest in big differences in behavior on the outside.

[name not needed]

3. Oh please

So now it's the videogames' fault he killed 9 people?

[KittyWampus]

9. If You Think Violent Videogames Have No Effect On The Psychic &

physical environment around us, then you have no clue how the subconscious mind and Reality works.

Our subconscious mind builds upon the suggestions we give it.

And watching and engaging in violent pasttimes sends out more consistent and repeated impressions of violence then ones claims to want peace.

The subconscious mind doesn't distinguish between the huge amount of time/energy spent playing violent video games and the occassional wish for peace. It simply acts upon the impressions that are most recent, frequent and clearly made.

[truthpusher]

14. Have you ever been hurt in a dream?

....You wake up screaming or in terrible fear and in some cases you may even feel actual pain. This is the power of the mind. When you are dreaming you are submersed into a world that is real as far as the mind is concerned. Why would video games be any different? Aren't you submersing your mind in a sensory realm the same as a dream?

[redacted]

23. Let's focus on real issues

There have been plenty of teenagers and children exposed to plenty of violence in video games -- tv --movies-- even the bible (try cain and abel for starters.) And they didn't go around shooting people.

Let's focus on real issues like treatment for the mentally ill and domestic violence. Dealing with issues like those are far more likely to help children and teenagers in trouble -- than banning violent video games.

Give me a break.

[alittlelark]

25. Do they FOCUS ON IT INTENTLY for HOURS each day

If they do that w/ Cain and Abel, then perhaps they will be incited to kill their brother. If they do that for hours each day w/ random ppl getting killed then.....?


Unstable minds are all around us..... what do YOU want to feed them?

[KittyWampus]

34. Yes, The Kids Didn't Go Around Shooting People... But Their Focus On

violent images and actions DO DEFINATELY contribute to violent atmosphere which surrounds them one way or other.

Mankind DOES have a Collective Consciousness.

It's akin to a Well from which we all the raw substance our lives are created from.

Those violent video games poison that Collective Well.

If you don't want violence and war, there are three things you do:

Don't feed violent images and actions to your subconscious
DO feed images of peace to your subconscious
DO control your emotional reactions and try to neutralize feeling of hate or aggression.

One needn't pretend there is no violence in Life. Doing that is unhealthy.

But one can emotionally distance ones self from it and refuse to react unconsciously to violent stimulus.

[Voltaire99]

24. What are "violent" video games?

Is that some sissy category, used to distinguish the merely "violent" games from the countless military mass-murder games and the genocide simulators?

You do know that your tax dollars support the creation of a popular game by the US Army, don't you?

[katinmn]

4. whew

If people that knew Weiss had seen this earlier, would they have gotten him into rehab? He was obviously very disturbed for some time.

[solinvictus]

11. He was in counseling..

the kid just imploded. I have to say, the animation reflects about any frustrated 16 year old I ever knew. He seems to have been good at it, too.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

18. I wonder how much counseling, and what kind.

With a 40% poverty rate on his reservation, drug/alcohol abuse and violent crime out of control, his father's suicide, a grandfather's death, and his mother's illness, is it surprising that he felt noone cared?

This is a tragedy waiting to happen again and again if we don't start making a serious effort to reach out to kids like him.

[katinmn]

36. heard on local AAR that they had one counselor for 1400 kids

k-12

[GoddessOfGuinness]

40. If that's the case...

it's a lucky thing that the counselor hasn't gone postal!

[makhno]

5. Interesting

He kills a klansman in the animation. Troubled kid.

[meganmonkey]

6. I don't even know what to say

:(

[Sivafae]

7. talk about self hate n/t

[GetTheRightVote]

8. very disturbing to see after all he has done to his home town people

:kick:

[truthisfreedom]

10. i can't deal with clicking on it, but why does my paranoia-meter go

directly to the "manchurian" zone when i think about this case?

my heart goes out to the victims and their families. i hope they receive the support they need to get through this.

[Sufi Marmot]

12. "His favorite recording artists included...and John Lennon." WTF?

Well that makes sense, what with all the violent imagery and lyrics in John Lennon's music... /sarcasm

:shrug:

[truthpusher]

16. Maybe it had something to do with Lennon being shot....

...that fascinated him? By the way who is that in your avatar?

[Sufi Marmot]

30. Sounds plausible...

The gentleman in my avatar is Richard Thompson, one of, if not THE world's greatest guitarist-songwriter.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

20. I think beneath the violent exterior was a tender-hearted boy

who was hurting deeply. Lennon's lyrics probably touched that tender part of himself. Lennon had a remarkable understanding of ordinary people's suffering.

[Sufi Marmot]

29. Point taken...

Too bad the whole "Give Peace a Chance" thing didn't rub off on him, though...

-SM

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

28. Mark David Chapman

Lennon's own killer was a fan. Tells you what a screwed up world we live in.

[Jamastiene]

33. My sentiments exactly. (EOM)

[phrenzy]

13. I drew things WAY worse than that in Jr Highschool

And grew up on video games as well as violent movies. I haven't killed anybody. In fact, I've never been in a fight. In fact, I can't even stand to see people in minor pain without feeling horrible for them.

If you are trying to scape goat games, music and movies you are an idiot. Period.

Spare me the 'subconscious' crap. Your subconscious absorbs A LOT of stuff unrelated to polygons moving on a television screen. Kids today are media literate enough to be able to starkly separate the fantasy world of video games and TV from the real world.

[truthpusher]

19. It has a lot more to do with traumatic events and circumstances...

...the violent images etc., can give a vulnerable person ideas. They are never a driving force. You might equate it to a rapist getting ideas and drive to commit acts from pornography. The pornography doesn't create the rapist. The rapist already exists. However the rapist may be encouraged by the images and ideas. Lots of times seeing so much of something, like violence upon violence upon violence; everyday hour on hour...a person without an identity, their world becomes framed in such a way as to give it definition.

I for example am a recovered/recovering alcoholic. Up till about 9 years ago I identified myself as someone who drinks. I told myself "I was born a drinker and I will always be a drinker, that's just who I am". I know realize that I am not a drinker, I am an alcoholic; big difference. As an alcoholic I chose to avoid putting alcohol in my body because I don't want to be a drinker. There are lots and lots of people out there who can drink and not get carried away, I can't. I was lucky enough to get help.

The young man in question, was a murderer. He didn't have to act on it. Knowing he had these tendencies he either did not know any better or didn't care about filling his mind full of murderous images. by submersing himself in this world of hate and violence he took the first drink, knowing that he had a problem. It was obviously his fault and his doing. No one forced him and nothing forced him...but if your an alcoholic and you hang out at bars, you are eventually going to take a drink.

[Logansquare]

15. When he was a kid, my brother drew bloody car crashes

and Nazis shooting US soldiers. I think the drawings can either be a pressure release or an indicator of a disturbed mind--it depends on a more comprehensive assessment. In my brother's case they reflected his anxiety about a car crash he witnessed, and a misguided interest in his German heritage, which thankfully was never cultivated any further in that direction. He's a big peace-loving vegetarian now who is still afraid of getting into a car crash.

[DS1]

17. It's was actually well done compared to a lot of flash animations

Don't think much of the content of course :shrug:

[malmapus]

32. Agree, alot of talent there and just wasted

Really a senseless waste of all those lives

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

21. Intelligent, introspective, bullied, socially isolated, teenager = tragedy

For all this kid's faults, he was dealt a really shitty hand in life. I see his actions and this prescient Flash animation as wrong-headed attempts at exerting some sort of control in his shitty life. It's just so sad...

JB

[Voltaire99]

22. He had a future in Hollywood or video games, from the looks of it.

His little Flash movie condensed the brutal sensibility of most American entertainment. The production values left something to be desired, but the staccato rhythm of death proves that Weise was, in addition to being a mass murderer, also a careful student of a culture that worships violence.

Indeed, if he were only two years older he could have enlisted and gone to Iraq to practice his desires. Timing is everything.

[MetaTrope]

31. Who's to say it wasn't the prospect of being drafted

into Bush's war for oiligarchs that drove him into such a deep depression?

Once the draft happens, America's entire teen population will be going South Park on society.

[Plaid Adder]

35. OK, THAT's a fucking warning sign.

I'm not saying that everyone who makes animated films about shooting people and then killing himself is going to actually do it...but if I were the kid's parent, I'd sure think it was an appeal for intervention.

Interesting that the video includes the blowing up of a police car AND the shooting of a Klansman even though the kid is supposed to have been a neo-Nazi. Boy seems to have been a little ideologically confused.

I remember talking to a friend of mine long ago about the whole rural skinhead phenomenon and him saying that in his opinion, half the kids who are doing the whole neo-Nazi thing don't really know jack about who the Nazis were or what they were about; they just know that if you draw a swastika somewhere or say that Hitler was a genius all the adults get REAL UPSET. Becoming a neo-Nazi is one way of rebelling, I suppose--being bad enough to get attention, even if it's not the GOOD kind of attention.

Anyway. I wish I hadn't watched the damn thing.

:scared:

The Plaid Adder

[katinmn]

37. part of the problem was that he had no parents

Father committed suicide four years ago and mom is in a nursing facility 250 miles away because of brain damage from a car accident.

[Snivi Yllom]

39. only problem is he had no parents

His father killed himself and his mom is in a nursing home with brain damage.

[rocktivity]

38. "Crudely" animated? I wish.

Sam Peckinpah would have, uh, killed to be able to express violence and impacted rage so articulately. It doesn't even seem to be a cartoon.

:headbang:
rocknation