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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:15 PM
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Rice lauds Taiwan's democracy
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Friday that Taiwan's democratic development is an important message that traditional political culture should not hamper political openness in China.

"It's yet further evidence that the notion that was in fashion somehow back in the 1980s and early 1990s that democracy was not an `Asian value' is simply crumbling across the entire region," Rice said.

"And in this regard, the further development of an open Chinese political system clearly should not be a matter of traditional or political culture, as people sometimes want to make it," she added.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/03/20/2003247007

The only truth that's come out of Lice's mouth in 5 years.
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:31 PM
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1. Umm...
Hasn't Japan been a democracy for a really, really long time (wasn't Tojo democratically elected?)? That would make her statement, the one about people thinking 'democracy' being incompatible in Asia, wrong?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't the people of Taiwan recently take to the streets to demand fair elections due to massive fraud? Funny how Condoleezza and her ilk carry out fraudulent elections and get away with it. Funny how that same group funds and supports terrible regimes all over the world.

Just another example of the hypocritical, self-serving and ignorant crap these people constantly put out.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:37 PM
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2. At least she got it better than aWol's example of democracy for the
world, the Philippines! Bush's sound bite for the PI should be, "have sex with a child two blocks from Arroyo's office. Follow the example of a Christian nation."
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:42 PM
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3. Getting it "better" than Bush is no great feat
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 11:14 PM by manic expression
I could find 4 year olds capable of such an accomplishment.

I agree with what you're saying about Bush...but it doesn't validate Rice's idiotic statements (even though you're not trying to validate them).
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 02:33 AM
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8. Japan has a sort-of democracy.
They've had one party in control of the government almost non-stop since the 1950s. There was one brief exception, in the early 90s I believe, but otherwise they've got de facto control of the country. It's a pretty right-leaning government as I recall, at least on economic and social issues.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 09:58 AM
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10. What is an election if you only have two gangsters to vote for?
Gangster A or Gangster B. Which is the case in every country in Africa, South America, the Philippines (Except Estrada and look what's happened to him)...

Urge to drop democracy grows in Latin America
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2004/06/28/2003176910
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:13 AM
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11. Stil not as right-wing as the Republicans, though, and
they're not as MEAN as the Republicans. They are also thinking about the future of the planet and exploring contingency plans.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:57 PM
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4. Notice how they never pick
Real democracies, like India, or the northern european countries, like Sweden, Norway, or Iceland.

It's always - Pakistan, Iraq, but not Venezuela or Iran (both of these countries have democratically elected leaders) but why would Condiment Rice care about that?
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:36 PM
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5. Rice wouldn't know true democracy if it bit her on the ass.
Fuck her and her fucking boss.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 01:33 AM
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 01:15 AM
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6. Rice hits new low in STUPIDITY. rotflmao!!! Rice, the US is only #13
in the world democracy rankings; maybe you should try working on that first, huh.

And just WHOSE "notion" would that have been in the 80s and 90s, Rice? YOURS, Rice? Because no one else has had such a 'notion' I ever heard of.

Last time she said this shit, she said "the notion that democracy was not a mideast value is simply crumbling".

Yet she attacks CANADA and FRANCE and GERMANY when they EXERCISED their DEMOCRACY and said HELL NO to bush's illegal Hitleresque war of aggression against Iraq.

"Some people" say Rice is a big ugly LIAR.


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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 04:03 AM
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9. i agree.
Taiwan is great. China knows how to manage this. they may be embarrassed, but who cares.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:14 AM
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12. Taiwan is actually a good example of Asian democracy,
although it would not have been 20 years ago.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:29 AM
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13. Hardly Surprising..
Hardly surprising a Republican would drool and proclaim the righteousness of democracy in countries where the ruling parties have completely dominated government for the past fifty years and are totally fused with corporate cartels and rural powerbrokers, like various the 'rice bowl' lobbys.

I have no doubt Rice and her ilk get positively excited at a prospects of these kinda 'democracies'
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