Scott Peterson on his way to San Quinton. Judge imposes DEATH.

[napi21]

CNN just had BN that the Judge has upheld the jury verdict and imposed the Death Penalty on Scott Peterson. He will be taken to San Quinton's Death Row shortly.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20050316/ap_on_re_us/laci_peterson

[jayfish]

1. Dumb!

What physical evidence led to this conviction again?

Jay

[madrchsod]

3. nancy grace is all anyone needs for

physical evidence..granny killed her granddaughter,that`s what nancy says so it must be true!

[Casandra]

4. Your answer

NONE! We know there are 2 bodies and we know who they are. But, we haven't even got enough evidence to prove there was a murder! I've never figured out how you can convict someone of murder when no murder has been proven. Sadly, this happens all the time.

[LisaL]

9. Well, sorry, sometimes you don't even need a body

to prove that there is a murder.
:eyes:

[northzax]

17. right, but it sure helps

and in those cases, there's often a confession.

Scott Petersen was convicted of murder for being an adulterer. There is no physical evidence linking him to the 'crime', no eyewitnesses, no confession (even a jailhouse one) and no real motive. he gained nothing financially from her death, and California has no fault divorce, all he had to do was walk away. So why kill her? Unless it was an 'act of passion' which is not premeditated (and therefore not death qualified)

but still, a cute pregnant woman turns up in the bay, and has a telegenic, connected family, and all of a sudden someone's on death row.

[Retired AF Dem]

42. Remember hearing something someone said before the trial

Scott Peterson is either guilty as hell, or the dumbest innocent person ever.

[northzax]

43. maybe so, but being dumb isn't reason for execution, is it?

I'd say he's either guilty or one really unlucky asshole (since he certainly is an asshole)

[Medium Baby Jesus]

53. Clue for sale.

I'm just saying...

[jdj]

59. Scott Peterson told Amber Frey that he knew who killed Laci.

This is proof enough for me that there was a murder.

[hollywood926]

15. Not enough evidence to prove there was a murder?

A woman and her fetus at the bottom of a bay miles away from where they were supposed to be, but exactly where the husband claims he was fishing ALONE on Christmas Eve.

Jesus Christ. When the RW bashes liberals, this is the kind of ammunition we give them - and it's really hard to defend. WHO THE FUCK IS STILL DEFENDING THIS GUY???????????????????????

[jayfish]

20. Me...

and I don't give a flying-fuck what the RW thinks. Based on your post below I can see you must have been on the Jury too.

Jay

[Mr_Spock]

34. I was once in the same area where someone I know was shot.

Did I do it?

[hollywood926]

67. that depends...

were you married to the person? did you tell your mistress that she was dead three weeks prior? did you buy a fishing boat one day before going on a fishing trip all by yourself on Christmas Eve and just happen to be "fishing" right where your wife's body was found? When you were interrogated, were you unable to tell the police what kind of fish you were trying to catch or whether or not you caught any? Did you tell your mistress you knew who killed your wife before her body was found?

If so, YEAH. You did it.

[Mr_Spock]

69. I think he did - you are certain that he did - OK, you are good

I wish I could say for sure that he did it - since I can't I think he should be found guilty and incarcerated. if we kill him and more evidence shows up adding doubt, well we can't bring him back to life - oh, well c'est la vie huh?

[hollywood926]

77. Don't worry, he'll outlive us all...

if they really wanted to kill him, they would have put him in with the general population.

[TheWraith]

61. Excuse me.

That is evidence that there was a murder--not that he was the murderer. Think about this for a second. Murderer #1 has just killed a pregnant woman, and the local media is all over the disappearence. If Murderer #1 has half a brain cell, they'd dump the body where the husband said he was fishing that day. Instant assumption of the husband's guilt, no heat on the murderer.

Are you aware that there were death threats made against another pregnant woman in the area--a former prosecutor who had a dog of the same breed and name as the Petersons' dog? Mistaken identity can be a real bitch for a would-be killer.

Again: no physical or forensic evidence. No crimescene. No witnesses. No murder weapon. Nothing that would constitute even a reasonable case for guilt, and they're going to stick a needle in his arm. That doesn't concern you? What if someday you're in the wrong place at the wrong time? We're executing people for suspicion now.

[hollywood926]

70. Read the post I was responding to...

the poster said there was no evidence that there was a MURDER. I was responding to that ridiculous assertion.

Everything in your post has been debunked. There were no death threats against a pregnant woman in the area, there was no other pregnant woman who looked exactly like Lacy walking her dog, there was no Satanic cult chopping people up. These are products of a the sleaziest lawyer in America, Mark Geragos, who would let his own wife's murderer walk if he could get on camera for a second.

[mzmolly]

39. Just because he covered up the crime, doesn't mean that he's innocent.

The guy called his mistress from a search party for his missing wife, and claimed to be in paris? He additionally called to have porn channels added to his tv lineup the day she disapeared? He also told his fiance his wife was dead, before she died? He kept saying that after the holidays he'd have more time to spend with Amber. He had a life insurance policy on his wife, but the company refused to pay. After they refused, he attempted to sell his missing wifes car, and the home they lived in. Heck, his own sister says she thinks he drowned her in his pool when she was floating (as she commonly did to relieve the pain of being pregnant) and then drove her to dump the body. Also, the body was found more than one hour away at a place Peterson frequented. etc...

It's all to "coincidental" for me.

Keep in mind, it's not always possible to collect DNA etc. when you are married or otherwise related to someone. For example her hair was found in the car/boat etc. Were they not related this would have been "evidence."

I do think it's a shame that they're killing him because I don't see what purpose it serves. But, as for his guilt, I haven't a "reasonable doubt."

[LisaL]

48. They are not killing him.

Chances are he will die of old age. Ca is extremely slow executing anyone.

[mzmolly]

49. Ahhh. Interesting.

;) May he rot in a 4X8 then.

[TheWraith]

62. Sheesh.

"The guy called his mistress from a search party for his missing wife, and claimed to be in paris?"

Men who lie for sex will say some pretty stupid things to keep their partners happy. It's never been illegal.

"He additionally called to have porn channels added to his tv lineup the day she disapeared?"

I've never seen proof that this is anything more than tabloid speculation.

"He also told his fiance his wife was dead, before she died?"

She was his mistress, and he told her that his wife had died six months earlier, and *that* was something like six months before his wife disappeared. Kind of a long time if you're planning to plug you significant other. It's a simple ploy for empathy on the part of the girlfriend. Again, lying for sex: stupid but not illegal.

"He kept saying that after the holidays he'd have more time to spend with Amber."

See above re: lying for sex.

"He had a life insurance policy on his wife, but the company refused to pay. After they refused, he attempted to sell his missing wifes car, and the home they lived in."

And, I suppose, a guy whos wife has just disappeared, who's a suspect in her death, and who is being hounded 24/7 by cops and media couldn't possibly need money for, say, lawyers?

"Heck, his own sister says she thinks he drowned her in his pool when she was floating (as she commonly did to relieve the pain of being pregnant) and then drove her to dump the body."

His sister, of course, being the definitive authority on the whole thing by virtue of having witnessed it. Oh, wait, she didn't. So she has what expertise? Family members are notoriously unreliable in these cases. Have you heard Sharon Rocha's antics on the stand?

"It's all to "coincidental" for me."

Yes, it is. It's called circumstantial evidence, evidence that's manufactured after the fact by suspicion and paranoia. Like the cement they claimed he used to make anchors for the body--until it was found in his driveway, right where he said he put it. Or the boat that they said he kept secret from his wife and family--until the defense called a witness who saw him showing his wife the boat.

[mzmolly]

66. Bull crap. I've known many a serial cheater, even they would not

call their mistress from a search party for a missing spouse and play kissy face.

Your monotonous "He lied for sex" crap doesn't cover the whole shebang, and I'm sure even you know it.

Men who lie for sex will say some pretty stupid things to keep their partners happy. It's never been illegal.

Sorry, he called from a vigil for his MISSING WIFE! It's beyond lying for sex. It demonstrates he did not give a flying F about said wife.

I've never seen proof (about the porn channels) that this is anything more than tabloid speculation.

Then YOU haven't been paying attention, proof was presented in court.

She was his mistress, and he told her that his wife had died six months earlier, and *that* was something like six months before his wife disappeared. Kind of a long time if you're planning to plug you significant other. It's a simple ploy for empathy on the part of the girlfriend. Again, lying for sex: stupid but not illegal.

NO, he saw Amber Fry for far less than 6 months. Lying for sex generally includes, "I'm divorced, I'm separated, I'm miserable, My wife is a total bitch - pity me," etc. NOT ... MY WIFE IS DEAD.

"He kept saying that after the holidays he'd have more time to spend with Amber." See above re: lying for sex.

My that lying for sex umbrella is becoming strained isn't it? This has nothing to do with lying for sex. He indicates that his life will be changing somehow after the holidays, which will enable him to spend more time with his mistress. WHY?


And, I suppose, a guy who's wife has just disappeared, who's a suspect in her death, and who is being hounded 24/7 by cops and media couldn't possibly need money for, say, lawyers?

You fail to get the point...again. :eyes:
I'm surprised you didn't chalk it up to "lying for sex." Why did he have such a large policy on his wife, without an identical one on himself in case his family lost him?

His sister, of course, being the definitive authority on the whole thing by virtue of having witnessed it. Oh, wait, she didn't. So she has what expertise? Family members are notoriously unreliable in these cases.

His sister (who believed in his innocence for some time) is far more reliable than YOU.

"It's all to "coincidental" for me."

Yes, it is. It's called circumstantial evidence, evidence that's manufactured after the fact by suspicion and paranoia. Like the cement they claimed he used to make anchors for the body--until it was found in his driveway, right where he said he put it. Or the boat that they said he kept secret from his wife and family--until the defense called a witness who saw him showing his wife the boat.

No it's called EVIDENCE weighed by a jury and found sufficient to determine him guilty "beyond a REASONABLE doubt." See the word "reasonable" mull it over, cause ... it's key.

[alarimer]

2. While I oppose the death penalty

I can think of few people who deserve it more.

[wildmanj]

27. and to think

there is another dude running around in florida that we know with almost certainty that cut two people heads off with a knife---and here is another dude from california that we think did it and he is on the way to the death house-----what a justice system, we should all be proud

[jdj]

60. Scott Peterson never played pro football.

which kind of explains things.

[iamjoy]

82. Who Is The Florida Dude? (eom)

[NYC Liberal]

5. Should've been life in prison with no parole. n/t

[Red State Rebel]

37. California Death Penalty is basically the same thing....

They haven't executed anyone in years.

[mountainvue]

57. They executed someone in January. n/t

[Moderator]

6. here's a link, please edit your post

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20050316/ap_on_re_us/laci_peterson
Thanks in advance

[Ernesto]

7. As a culeeforneeyan

that lives way to close to Peterson's home, I'm glad the soap opera is over (as much as it can be, for now).
Let's turn the page.

[TheFarseer]

8. don't care don't care don't care

Just because some Fox News A-holes got the idea that they should try to make democrats say that he only killed one person, and the unborn child doesn't count and defend a "murderer" like Scott Peterson, now I have to get updates about this stupid sh*t from co-workers all day. ARGH!!!!

[leetrisck]

10. And Sharon Rocha (Laci's mother) is

now making it all about her and has been for some time. Why on earth did the judge have victim impact statements "after" imposing the death penalty. Mrs. Rocha must want a career - I have come to completely detest the woman (completely separate from my thoughts about Peterson).

[jayfish]

14. Prosecutors Are Always...

allowed to taint juries with this emotional content. Most of it having nothing to do with the case at hand. A perfect example, from this trial even, is allowing the jury to view the Peterson autopsy photos. Other than titillating and infuriating the jury, what evidentiary value did those photos have? NONE!

Jay

[hollywood926]

71. Yeah, she's a terrible person...

Speaking out negatively about the man who slaughtered her daughter and grandson, leaving them to rot and be eaten by sea creatures.

What a bitch.

(and BTW...I hope you don't have a daughter. That karma can be a nasty thing.)

[qwertyMike]

11. Death Penalty for Peterson

Judge Alfred Delucchi sentenced Scott Peterson to die by lethal injection for the murders of his wife, Laci Peterson, and unborn son.



http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/11151095.htm

[hollywood926]

12. Wow, I didn't know there were so many DUers on the jury!

I think the jury was privy to the entirety of this case and made a decision unanimously.

Scott Peterson is slime. They should just turn him loose among the general population, if you ask me. He'll just sit on death row for a squillion years and suck up our taxpayer dollars at this rate.

It never ceases to amaze me the kind of lowlifes some Democrats will defend.

[jayfish]

18. Imagine That,...

people posting their opinions on an opinion board. Were there some secret proceedings that I don't know about in this case? Cause as far as I am aware, the whole thing is public record.

Jay

[northzax]

22. yeah, it's messy, isn't it

to apply civil rights to bastards who cheat on their wives. But such is the role of a civil libertarian.

see, I have this little thing about ensuring that everyone accused of a crime in the United States is treated fairly. And yes, for the lurking freepers, I don't think we should even torture Osama bin Laden. sayeth Jesus: "Inasmuch as you've done it to the least of these, my brothers and sisters, you've done it unto me"

live by it. the Slime need more protection from the mob, not less.

[hollywood926]

81. but this is where liberals (rightfully) get a bad rap...

We profess to care about the civil rights of every individual, but we seem to care less about victims of crimes than we do about the people who commit the crimes.

Scott Peterson isn't going to be tortured. He will sit safely in an isolated cell for years and years and the someday maybe he'll get a little needle poke and he'll go to sleep and never wake up. That's not torture. Being beaten to death is torture. And I would imagine that falling from a 110-story building to your death is torture, too.

Sorry. If it were up to me, Osama bin Laden would be set on fire on pushed off the Sears Tower. Live on Pay Per View. Human rights are for humans. When you take another life, you forfeit your own.

[msongs]

13. his execution? don't wait up for it..........

like it..or not...it takes decades for a convicted to death person to get it.

(Don’t blame me, I voted for Howard).

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[onehandle]

19. Yep. Life in prison is cheaper than the Death Penalty.

Let him rot.

[musiclawyer]

46. I'm against the death penalty

I think we should contract with the Russians or some others, send them some dollars in exchange for taking our "heinous lifers" (special category of killers that forfeit their right to be among us). No visitors. No Perks. Just enough not to have their constitutional rights violated. It would be much cheaper and and we could always bring them back in case a witness or DNA proves otherwise.

[diamond14]

16. juror shows EXCITEMENT over KILLING Scott Peterson....(PHOTO)

she romps into the courthouse...THRILLED....



Juror Richelle Nice arrives at the courthouse in Redwood City, Calif., Weds., March 16, 2005. Nice, who was a member of the jury, was attending the formal sentencing of Scott Peterson who was convicted of two counts of murder in the deaths of his wife and their unborn child. (AP Photo/Palo Alto Daily News, Tony Avelar, POOL)

[E-Z-B]

25. Hey, why don't we execute him in a packed stadium???

Just like the Taliban used to do. I'm sure the right-wingers would love that.

Cripes, how is this nation any different than those countries?

[Say_What]

29. Yep. Modern Day Coliseum--just like Rome--with everyone cheering

That's the level of depravity the USSA has sunk to.... How about they kill some juvenille offenders along with him and make it a real entertaining day. Oops. Forgot. They banned that practice. But hey, the USSA, along with China and Iran, still lead the planet in executions--the Axis of Executioners.

:puke:

[RevolutionStartsNow]

26. Wow, that's creepy

How can she be so happy about the deaths of 3 people??

2 murdered by (probably) Scott, and 1 murdered by the state.

There is not a single thing to smile about in regards this case.

[Seabiscuit]

28. If any juror looks happy, perhaps it's simply because the judge ratified

the jury's verdict by upholding it in denying the defense motion for a new trial. If that motion had been granted, it would have appeared as a stain on the jury.

I wouldn't try to read any more than that into that photo.

[northzax]

30. um, as I recall

that particular juror gave interviews after the trial relishing the death penalty for Peterson. I don't recall her saying "well, we agonised over it, and finally decided it was the right thing"

Lady, you just sent a man to his death. Even if you are 100% convinced it was the right decision, it's not something to celebrate.

[Seabiscuit]

32. As someone who also opposes the death penalty, I agree that expressing

joy over a death penalty sentence being upheld is disturbing. But I learned long ago not to try to read people's minds by looking at one photograph.

[northzax]

33. true, but it expresses a pattern of behaviour

the extrapolation of which is what she used to send a man to the needle room.

[LisaL]

45. He could outlive all of us.

Ca execute people extremely slowly, if at all. All chances are he will die from natural causes.

[TrustingDog]

58. yah, creepy scary dame for sure.sure looks like a fair trial, huh?n/t

[Bo]

47. What a sick fuck....

S.Peterson could not have gotten a fair trial on the MOON. Thats how insane the media was and still is.
What if Lacy found out about the affair and committed suicide?

[impe]

65. Yikes!

Now that is scary. I wonder what the collective IQ is of this jury.

The Roches looked oh so very pleased

How is it this monster was able to show more class than these wonna be TV hags.

My bets are still on Amber or the Step-Father....

[Hand]

73. "Ooooo! Book contract!!! Book contract!!!" nt

[noonwitch]

21. I still think Amber did it and framed Scott

The innocent do not hire Gloria Allred.

Seriously, she's the one who has gained the most by Laci's death. She's making money off her book, her appearances on tv, and I'm sure is entertaining movie offers, if she hasn't already signed a deal. She's getting a ton of sympathy from the reporters who interview her, when she's a f-ing skank and an adulteress.

If she couldn't have him, she wasn't going to let Laci have him.

[northzax]

23. but...but...but

she was so innocent looking on Oprah...

[readmylips]

36. Amber killed Laci, I agree....

Amber was/is a piece of meat. She finally met a nice guy (sort-of) and she was going to take him no matter what...sounds like the Long Island Lolita. Barafuco was/is a piece of shit but not to Miss Lolita. She wanted the guy and had the balls to go up to his house and shoot his wife in the face. Amber killed Laci.

[TheWraith]

63. That's occurred to me too.

I haven't totally ruled it out, but I doubt it. She doesn't seem bright enough to pull off a murder. Then again, with the police basically beginning and ending the investigation with the husband, she might not have to be.

[hollywood926]

72. Brilliant!

I can't believe we lost the election with great minds like yours on the Democratic side. Yes, Amber did it. If she hadn't done it, she wouldn't have hired Gloria Allred. She would have hired Mark Geragos!

Oh My God. We are in so much trouble.

[E-Z-B]

24. Sadly, this sentence will justify the RW's belief

that the dealth penalty should be upheld. The dealth penalty is wrong, period. Too many people are wrongly executed and the media has no desire to turn America away from this barbaric act.

When you take away all the emotions with this trial, all your left with is circumstantial evidence which should NOT be enough to kill a man over.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

31. The death penalty is an abomination.

It's absolutely disgusting that so many feel we *need* it.

[Jack_DeLeon]

35. Thats great, justice will be served...

Atleast thats one white murderer that didnt get off because of his good looks or his money.

[digno dave]

38. Could Mods please delete this worthless thread?

nt

[jayfish]

40. Dear Dingo...

hit the alert button if you find this thread outside of the DU:LBN posting requirements. Why are you interested in such a worthless thread? I thought opposition to the death penalty was a progressive issue.

Jay

[deek]

41. me too. next death sentence on Friday

Terri

[maxsolomon]

44. who is scott peterson & why do i care?

and while we're at it, who is this michael jackson?

[Guaranteed]

50. ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY. NT

[Blue_Tires]

51. that could take forever

i mean, they still haven't executed charles manson after 35 years!

[nonconformist]

52. Manson's death sentence was converted to life w/ parole

When CA got rid of the death penalty. They've since (obviously) got the penalty back, but Manson fell through the cracks.

Manson comes up for parole periodically, as do other "family" members. They'll never get out though.

[Blue_Tires]

55. why manson fell through the cracks and is not currently eligible

i will never know..

[nonconformist]

56. When CA abolished the death penality in 1972

All prisoners on Death Row got their sentences automatically converted to life with the possibility of parole. This included Manson and his girls.

The real problem is that they were converted to life WITH parole - because while I don't believe in the death penalty I do support life withOUT parole for 1st degree murder convictions.

On the bright side though, there's not a parole board on Earth that would set him free.

[The Stranger]

54. No witnesses. No murder weapon. No DNA.

Probably not a good candidate for a death sentence.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

74. I'm sure it will be appealed on those grounds n/t

[trapper914]

76. Lindy Chamberlain

The subject of the Meryl Streep film, "A Cry In the Dark." Eerily similar in the way it was tried in the media. Evidence was eventually found proving she didn't kill her child, but not before she served time.

I don't know if Peterson's guilty, but I'd feel a lot better about it if they could've found more physical evidence.

I do know that we, as a country, have spent way too much time watching this case, which is just one of thousands of murders each year. Why is Laci any more important than a dead hooker in Jersey?

[opihimoimoi]

64. Kill the dude already...wasting water and bread, air too.

[nolabels]

68. Who is Scott Peterson?

Did I miss something :shrug:

[Stuckinthebush]

75. It is interesting that many on DU know so much about this case.

I know his face, but every time the news would flip to a report about him, I'd flip it off (the TV, that is).

[hollywood926]

78. I wish some of the holier-than-thous would make a list...

of all the things we are and aren't allowed to talk about.

Clearly if we pay attention to a prominent legal case, we don't know anything else.

Who won the election, by the way? Just wondering.

[nolabels]

79. To put the shoe on another foot.........

I may have seen 2 or 3 minutes of TEE-VEE in the last couple of months but just think about how much TEE-VEE everybody would have to watch if the same coverage applied to ALL them people who died an immoral and untimely death in Iraq x(

[skippythwndrdog]

80. Good, he deserves it.

Piece of shit wife and baby killer.

[DemsUnite]

83. Enjoy hell, Scottie n/t

n/t