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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:42 PM
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White House Concerned Over Oil Prices
WASHINGTON -- The White House complained Tuesday that rising energy costs are a drag on the U.S. economy, as officials of oil-producing countries gathered in Iran to consider how to respond to pressure to lower prices.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said the Bush administration was telling oil producers "about the importance of acting in ways that support our growing global economy and our growing U.S. economy."
...
McClellan said high energy prices "are a concern for the administration. And our view is that those high energy prices are a drag on our growing economy."

He called on Congress to pass Bush's energy bill, saying it would help reduce dependence on foreign sources of energy and make the United States more self-sufficient.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-us-opec,0,2065200.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:43 PM
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1. No shit!
...McClellan is such a whore
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:07 PM
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14. You beat me to it--ditto
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:45 PM
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2. "... A Drag on our Growing Economy"
I believe that would be George W. Bush.

--p!
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:45 PM
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3. at $50 a fill up, it doesn't leave much to go to Wal*Mart n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:46 PM
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4. Sure they are...all the way to the bank
This administration is loaded with self-serving oil and energy men/women. What a farce,
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madhat Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:47 PM
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5. Hello Bandar!
May I have some more?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:50 PM
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6. Thought it was more like "Hello Bandar... Open the Spigots!"
Edited on Tue Mar-15-05 09:50 PM by The_Casual_Observer
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:50 PM
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7. This is so pathetic.
:puke:
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:51 PM
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8. I'm sure they're upset because the prices haven't gone higher
We still haven't reached the prior record. Buncha pricks.
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:52 PM
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9. If anyone should know about a "drag" on the economy....it's Bush!!
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:54 PM
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10. Um hello? Where the heck were you when the price was doubling?
Of course, this is just justification now to start drilling in ANWR, which of course won't do anything to effect the current issue. My god, when does this ride end? I want off!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 11:30 PM
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17. but it will effect it..
for about 6 months.
Then the supply runs out.





Didn't a couple of the major oil companies say a few months ago that they had lost interest in the idea because it was too expensive to process, and there isn't that much there?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:20 AM
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20. It's NOT about energy. ANWR is about letting Repukes do what they want
to the environment. This is our national natural jewel, a pristine wilderness, and it is an ICON to them. Let them drill in ANWR and they will take it as a blank check to do whatever, wherever, whenever, including finally removing all of the old growth Sequoias even though no one needs the friggin redwood lumber anymore, either.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:55 PM
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11. Too bad they didn't spend the Iraq money ($300 billion) on
conservation and alt energy.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:59 PM
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12. Agreed...
There's a goldmine out there in environmental technology. But investing in such things would require an administration with vision and foresight, let alone one that wasn't controlled by the oil industry.

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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:59 PM
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13. He really wants to ram that POS bill down our throats! Isn't this
the 3rd time they've tried?

Even the the GOP Congress won't pass that POS bill!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:13 PM
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15. ROFLMAO!
Oil Prices
Campaign 2000: "What I think the president ought to do is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price."
Apr 2004: As gas prices in the US continued to rise, the Miami Herald reported that Bush refused to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds."


http://uspolitics.about.com/od/campaign2004/a/bush_promises_4.htm
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:58 PM
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16. "about the importance of acting in ways
that support our growing global economy and our growing U.S. economy."


or what?

we bomb the shit out of you?


how does the *moron's energy bill reduce dependence on foreign sources of energy?

oh, that's right. WE OWN IRAQ NOW.

we broke it afterall.
dp
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 12:30 AM
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18. They're trying to get out in front of bad news. An LBN oil trifecta!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:16 AM
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19. jackass goes after SS when he should be going after new types of energy...
Imagine if you will, a world where moron* comes to his senses and realizes that SS is not in bad shape but the oil situation is. Then he tries selling the US public on converting to electric, hydrogen, etc away from oil, with the same fucked up misguided conviction he's using for his stupid SS plan.
Now wouldn't that be something huh?
Sorry I like telly fairly tales. lol
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 02:24 AM
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21. And in the meantime, they don't want Iran to build nuclear reactors
Because Iran has sooooooo much oil and natural gas already. Maybe Iran realized that's what the US was saying 30 yrs ago and they've seen what happens when you don't prepare early?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:57 AM
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22. And Saudi Arabia will announce an increase in production today
You can bank on it.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:06 AM
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23. Is it just me, or is McClellan the WORSE White House PS ever???
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:37 AM
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24. Now, I wonder how those 58 million sheep voters who put shrub
...back in office along with those republic-boots-cans in congress think about their "Nazi" leader now? Just sign here for another $600 billion in war costs every year thanks.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:39 AM
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26. Yep, it's been a pretty sight, hasn't it? At my work, plenty of 'good
ole boys' not only have big gas guzzlers, they also have houses way out of town (they're cheaper and isolated from "those" people) and so now they have to drive 50 miles one way to get to work! I haven't heard one word about how awful gas prices are, because they are too ashamed to admit their boy is screwing them.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:21 AM
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25. So let's see, how does this work?
Drive up the price of oil through global instability, create a mood of panic by publicly announcing that we're at the point of peak oil, and then propose a bill to drill on home ground.

Is that it? Someone please tell me that I'm being paranoid.

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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:41 AM
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28. Not Paranoid.
Myself, I think we are approaching the peak of conventional (re: cheap) oil production.

I have done the reading, and I feel the theory the projections are based on are sound. My conclusion is that we had better get our head and our ass wired together quick, or peak oil is going to take a giant shit on us.

If someone does the reading and comes to a different conclusion, so be it. Nothing is certain, except death and taxes (unless you’re rich in America).
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ausiedownunderground Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:10 AM
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27. American's are still paying the lowest gas prices in the "Western World"
America is still one of the largest oil well drillers in the world. There are only a couple of countries drilling more. I don't want to name them in case one of you "blabs" and they get invaded!
America's problem is not supply but consumption! There are a lot of countries around the world that have large supplies of oil! They also have small oil consumption, so they export! A good example of this is Saudi Arabia. However i don't think any of these countries realized how "rabid" America was to consume their product. In fact America is becoming so "rabid" that most of these countries are becoming scared of America. This fear of america has also grown to countries that don't have a lot of oil to sell on the world market. If the whole oil world goes "pear-shaped" because the American's want it all, then the only answer for energy resources that can quickly be put on line for the rest of us is "Coal" and Uranium". Gas is attached to Oil!
Oz is the leading exporter of "High-Quality sulphur free" coal if there is a version of High Quality Coal. We are also unfortunately, the owners of 33% of the world's Uranium supply. We do not have any nuclear reactor's that supply any power as yet. Our only nuclear reactor at Lucas Heights is used to make "isotopes" for medicine and it has an American sponsored "offshoot" for "Weapons" technology called SILEX.
So if the world decides to go for the "quick" fix of nuclear power then Oz Uranium is going to be in demand. However, unlike the Iraqi's, Oz citizens will really give American's a fight if you decide to take our Uranium!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 10:56 AM
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29. Bush 'worried about natural gas' prices (Marketwatch)
Bush 'worried about natural gas' prices

By William L. Watts
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- President Bush on Wednesday said he was concerned about rising energy prices, and urged Congress to pass legislation that would open part of Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil and gas exploration. Bush said he was "worried abut the price of natural gas" given its role in electricity generation. Bush said surging global demand for energy is the key reason for rising prices. Bush said he has repeatedly asked Congress to pass "a comprehensive energy plan, which they have yet to do."

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?siteid=mktw&guid=%7BE77DBBA1-7F9E-4CD3-83AF-D72511ED3BF0%7D&

Although I think Bush is a "lying sack of shit". I do agree the US needs a comprehensive alternative energy plan.

Alaska is a "non-starter"... we need tremendous focus on "alternative renewable energy"...and not some pork barrel bill for Alaska
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 10:56 AM
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30. Yeah whatever *
"President Bush on Wednesday said he was concerned about rising energy prices"

Yeah sure...he's concerned they're not high (and profitable) enough...he doesn't give a shit otherwise.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 10:56 AM
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31. The difference between Republican and Democratic leadership:
What does each party do in an energy crisis: Democrats ask the nation to sacrifice and conserve the finite resource so that we can leave some for our grandkids and, thus, the reduced demand staves off oil price increase; Republicans go oil drilling in our last natural reserves, which does nothing to stave off the demand, nor will it reduce prices.
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:08 AM
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32. Tom Delay LETS TRUTH SLIP . . .
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 11:09 AM by graphixtech
http://www.defenders.org/releases/pr2003/pr092503b.html

September 25, 2003

TOM DELAY LETS TRUTH SLIP
ON DRILLING IN ARCTIC REFUGE

WASHINGTON, DC -- Remarks by representative Tom DeLay, reported today in Roll Call, reveal the true agenda behind the push to drill for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

"On Tuesday, during a closed door session of the House GOP leadership, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said that the battle in Congress to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil exploration is a fight over whether energy exploration will be allowed in similarly sensitive areas in the future... ‘It's about precedent,’ DeLay told the assembled Republican leaders while making several references to the ‘symbolism of ANWR,’ according to GOP sources." -- Roll Call, September 25, 2003

"Tom DeLay has now stated plainly what we’ve known all along: that drilling in the Arctic Refuge is not about energy independence or the war on terrorism," said Rodger Schlickeisen, President of Defenders of Wildlife. "The drive to drill for oil in the Arctic Refuge is about oil company profits and lifting barriers to future oil exploration in protected lands, pure and simple."
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