Marines driven out of UAW lot (No foreign cars or Bush bumper stickers)

[True_Blue]

DETROIT -- The United Auto Workers says Marine reservists should show a little more semper fi if they want to use the union's parking lot.

The Marine Corps motto means "always faithful," but the union says some reservists working out of a base on Jefferson Avenue in Detroit have been decidedly unfaithful to their fellow Americans by driving import cars and trucks.

So the UAW International will no longer allow members of the 1st Battalion 24th Marines to park at Solidarity House if they are driving foreign cars or displaying pro-President Bush bumper stickers.

"While reservists certainly have the right to drive nonunion made vehicles and display bumper stickers touting the most anti-worker, anti-union president since the 1920s, that doesn't mean they have the right to park in a lot owned by the members of the UAW," the union said in a statement released Friday.

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http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0503/13/C01-115531.htm

[7th_Sephiroth]

1. but how manny hummer driving non-bush bots are there?

and to be fair, toyota makes its vehicles in the U.S., are they allowed?

[JoFerret]

45. Are they UAW?

unionized?

[7th_Sephiroth]

51. i believe so

but not 100%

[wtmusic]

2. It's a shame

it has to come down to this

[democrat_patriot]

3. Finally - we get to fght back.

Just watch though:

Republicans do this and nothing happens, this will cause a huge uproar on the right, who will act hurt and demand an apology..

[LincolnMcGrath]

4. Good for them!

[Conservativesux]

37. These Marines should be glad they have a good union job. Millions..

..of non-Union American workers live under the gun with bosses that mistreat them and no where to go, but out the door, if they complain.

Go UAW!!!

[Webster Green]

5. Are any US made vehicles totally made in this country?

I once bought a 1987 Ford Ranger pickup. The tranny eventually died, and I decided to put a new one in myself. It turns out that the transmission was made in Japan by one of their large manufacturers. I can't remember which one, maybe Mazda. The fasteners on the truck were half SAE and half Metric, and that made it a real pain in the butt to work on.

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Good point

That buy American nonsense is a non-issue these days. Even WalMart stopped their ads.

[Conservativesux]

41. Thats because 70 percent of what Walmart sells is made in China..

..which means you just bought some cheap Chinese garbage and paid a little less for it then if it was made here in the USA, at the cost of American jobs.

What a deal. :crazy:

[Philosophy]

9. A lot of the "foreign" cars sold in the US are made here too

Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai

[Toucano]

13. Are they union shops? n/t

[Toucano]

15. Self Answered

Some are:

http://uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2005.cfm

2005 Cars and Trucks

Built by UAW members
CARS

Buick LeSabre
Buick Park Avenue
Cadillac CTS
Cadillac DeVille
Cadillac STS
Cadillac XLR
Chevrolet Cavalier*
Chevrolet Cobalt*
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet Malibu
Chevrolet Malibu Maxx
Chrysler Sebring
Dodge Neon
Dodge Stratus
Dodge Viper
Ford Five Hundred
Ford Focus*
Ford Freestyle
Ford GT
Ford Mustang
Ford Taurus
Ford Thunderbird
Lincoln LS
Lincoln Town Car
Mazda 6
Mercury Montego
Mercury Sable
Mitsubishi Eclipse
Mitsubishi Galant
Pontiac Bonneville
Pontiac G6
Pontiac Grand Am
Pontiac Solstice
Pontiac Sunfire*
Pontiac Vibe
Saturn ION
Saturn L300
Toyota Corolla*
PICKUP TRUCKS

Chevrolet Colorado
Chevrolet Silverado*
Chevrolet SSR
Dodge Dakota
Dodge Ram*
Ford F-series*
Ford Ranger
GMC Canyon
GMC Sierra*
Lincoln Mark LT
Mazda B-series
Toyota Tacoma*
SUVs

Cadillac Escalade*
Cadillac SRX
Chevrolet Blazer
Chevrolet Suburban*
Chevrolet Tahoe
Chevrolet Trail Blazer EXT
Dodge Durango
Ford Escape/Escape Hybrid
Ford Excursion
Ford Expedition
Ford Explorer
Ford Explorer Sport Trac
GMC Envoy XL
GMC Envoy XUV
GMC Yukon/Denali
GMC Yukon XL*
Hummer H1
Hummer H2
Hummer H2 SUT
Isuzu Ascender (7-passenger)
Jeep® Grand Cherokee
Jeep® Liberty
Jeep® Wrangler
Lincoln Aviator
Lincoln Navigator
Mazda Tribute
Mercury Mariner
Mercury Mountaineer
Mitsubishi Endeavor
Saturn VUE
VANS

Buick Terraza
Chevrolet Astro
Chevrolet Express
Chevrolet Uplander
Chevrolet Venture
Chrysler Town & Country*
Dodge Caravan*/Grand Caravan*
Ford E-series
GMC Safari
GMC Savana
Pontiac Montana
Saturn Relay

[XemaSab]

17. What does the asterisk mean?

n/t

[Toucano]

22. Good catch, I missed that.

"* Note: Vehicles marked with an asterisk are produced in more than one country, but all models made in the United States are assembled by UAW members. To be sure the vehicle you are buying is assembled in the United States, check the window sticker, which will list the location of final assembly, and the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN), which is attached to the driver's side of the dashboard. A VIN beginning with "1," "4" or "5" means the vehicle was assembled in the United States"

[XemaSab]

29. Thanks n/t

[Chico Man]

39. My 2004 Toyota Tacoma was built here in the USA

By UAW workers.

[Orsino]

56. I knew Toyotas sold here were mostly built here...

...and was a bit dismayed to note the window sticker of my new Prius, which showed it had been assembled in Japan. Ditto for the Accord Hybrid we test-drove last night. I'd prefer to support American workers more directly, but at least Toyota, a major American employer, will benefit from my purchase.

If I'm not going to buy American, I will try to be sure it's for IMO necessary tech like hybrid cars, or for other stuff that simply isn't made here.

[Retrograde]

59. so's my 2004 Nissan Frontier

South Carolina, I think. The Toyota we almost bought is made in Fremont , California. And BMW makes cars somewhere in the south, IIRC, and Volkswagon has a plant somewhere.

Conversely, a lot of cars with American names are made overseas.

[jmowreader]

69. BMW's plant is in Spartanburg, SC

They make the roadster and the SUV there.

[satya]

20. Great link! Thanks, I'm bookmarking it. nt

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

27. A slew of gas-guzzlers.

:tinfoilhat:

[satya]

31. I'm looking for a diesel vehicle I can run on biodiesel; several of these

fit the bill. But you're right, we've got a long way to go in developing US-made fuel efficient vehicles. I blame the big-oil interests for that though, not the folks building them.

[piece sine]

67. nearly all those brands are so non-PC

That list will never fly round here. Those are all the cars we hate the most.

[Toucano]

71. Why is that?

There are a lot of prefectly acceptable models in that list.

The Toyota Corolla?

Ford Focus?

Saturns?

Ford Escape Hybrid?

[LeftyMom]

36. Honda has a plant in Ohio

outside of Columbus.

I actually have a US made, US badged, union built car (I *heart* my Saturn) but I'd feel equally good about having a foreign badged car built in the US, particularly if it was union made. THe same plant makes the Pontiac Vibe and the Toyota Matrix, so I can't see how owning one is anti-American and one isn't.

I'm all for the "No Bush stickers in our lot" rule.

[chaumont58]

10. A Yamaha tranny?

I have a '94 Ranger, 5 speed. If I remember what the owner's manual says, its a Yamaha transmission. I've had good luck with my Ford. It has almost 200,000 miles on it.
I can understand concerns people have about buying American made cars. While it is good for the economy(in my opinion)to make what we consume, I also remember the products Detroit put out back in the 70s, 80s and 90s. A lot of people thought ford stood for found on the road dead, or fix or repair daily. While even Consumers' Union would say Big Three quality has improved considably, it is still behind Japan.

[d.l.Green]

19. Ford owns Mazda. My 1987 Ford Ranger had a Mitsubishi engine...

and, go figure, my 1994 Mazda B3000 pickup has a Ford engine. Like you say, I don't think any vehicle anymore is made entirely in any one country.

[rockedthevoteinMA]

46. Yeah mazda and ford have some sort of deal. I had a Mazda 626

(early 90's) that had a ford probe engine in it. Go figure.

[jmowreader]

68. A Ranger is a Mazda B-series truck

They come off the same production line and everything.

[DS1]

6. Stop making shit cars

:silly:

[NNN0LHI]

35. Brilliant comment that adds much to this story

You should be commended.

Don

[DS1]

49. Thank you, I wake up hoping to delight you every morning.

[Conservativesux]

40. This isnt the 1970's anymore. Detriot steel rocks!!

[DS1]

50. Bullshit. Every new car I've been in was cheap, rattled, with insultingly

bad body panel alignments. Careless crap is my typical impression for every American car I've been in.

[Conservativesux]

54. Which brands? I have not experienced that sort of quality for years.

from US made cars.

[LiberalFighter]

62. Nor I !!!!

DS1 must have had poor ability to select a good vehicle.

Our communications person received a call from a owner of a GM Truck made in Ft Wayne IN with almost 3/4 million miles and the guy intends to keep driving it until he gets a million miles.

[TommyO]

64. I see you're BS, and raise you

Detroit has come a long way since the bad old days. I just bought a used 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix, every body panel is where it should be and it has far fewer rattles than my quality German engineered VW Jetta.

[NNN0LHI]

70. All new cars are under warranty for defects such as rattles and...

...bad body panel alignments for 36,000 miles or 36 months. The dealers fix all that shit for free. They even give you a free loner if you need one to drive while they fix it. I am confused. Where is the bitch?

Plus these cars are mass produced on an assembly line and welded together mostly with robotic technology. If you want something hand built be prepared take a second mortgage out on your home to get one.

Don

[Theres-a]

8. Right ON!!!!!!!

My reply was to the original message.I'm glad the UAW isn't allowing Bush stickers in their lot.They're showing some balls,seems to me.

[billbuckhead]

12. It's not the workers fault that American management is incompetent

German, Japanese and Swedish autoworkers actually make more per hour than their American counterparts, but these companies still succeed. Harvard MBA's like George Bush are wrecking America's manufacturing infrastructure.

[drdtroit]

24. Their CEO's don't make 3500 times as much

as the workers, like here!

[chaumont58]

11. I think the wingnut talking heads will try to make something out of this

even though, the bushies don't allow ANY dissent at ANY chimpie rally or speaking engagement.

[paineinthearse]

14. I see this as akin to * blocking non-rethugs to his dog and pony show

Completely justified.

[NNN0LHI]

16. The property is owned and insured by dues paying union members ...

...so therefore they can decide who parks on their property. I wouldn't allow a bunch of Chimp supporting assholes to park their cars on my property either. Thats is just the way it is.

Don

[XemaSab]

18. That goes both ways though

My landlady's a republican, and she lets me park my flaming-liberal-mobile (Corolla with dem stickers) on her place.

I agree that the UAW should be allowed to ban non-US-made cars from their lot, but making it a partisan thing might alienate more people than it rallies.

[NNN0LHI]

25. You are paying that Rethuglican landlady rent aren't you?

So if Ms. Rethug wants your rent money she won't say nothing. Am I right?

Don

[XemaSab]

30. This is true,

But I still think we should practice political tolerence.

[never_get_over_it]

34. Yep we keep practicing political tolerance

and they keep walking all over us. It is high time we fight back in any way we can.

[LiberalFighter]

47. We do the same at our Local Union

Only union made vehicles permitted.

Regional Director a few years back changed to a different business after they came on the Regional property with a foreign truck. Every one of their trucks were foreign made. This was about 1991 or 92.

[TahitiNut]

21. This has more to do with regional (Detroit) politics than UAW ...

The UAW regards itself as an International union. The issue has far more to do with (1) regional attitudes about the eradication of the Motor City manufacturing base, and (2) the off-shoring of jobs to non-union/anti-union countries where collective bargaining is outlawed.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

23. GOOD FOR THEUAW's!!!...it's about time we fight back!

[gizmo1979]

26. Hoo-ah

[Nickster]

28. Why do they hate America? /sarcasm

[Media_Lies_Daily]

32. Oh, brother. Just look under the hood of any "American-made" car...

...and you'll discover that a huge number of parts and sub-assemblies are made in foreign countries.

The UAW had better hope that nobody calls their bluff on this.

[madmom]

33. my hubby works for General Motors,

which is a union shop. They have for years made non-American cars park clear to the end of the parking lot, even employees. It's their parking lot why not?

[Conservativesux]

38. I love it !!

How can anyone go to work at an American union automobile plant, driving a foriegn-made POS, and still hold thier heads up in public?

[Gyre]

42. Right the fuck on!

Unions growing some. Hoo boy; what next? :evilgrin:

Gyre

[BikeWriter]

43. Freakin' A!

[stillcool]

44. Totally agree...and looking for more...

as individuals we can do. After reading the White Rose Society last nite, am becoming all to aware how acceptance and tolerance are quickly becoming akin to guilty.

[GettysbergII]

48. Bravo, UAW! May this be the beginning of a boycott of all things Red.

[blockhead]

52. if you work for coca-cola...

you don't walk into work drinking a pepsi...

[Blue_Tires]

53. this story is a setup

"The UAW has a long history of barring foreign-made cars from its parking lots."

Which is longtime common knowledge for anyone that knows the first thing about the auto industry and the UAW...So why is it a story?? Let's get to the heart of the underlying message: Unions=Anti-American losers that 1. hate our troops (I LOVE the way they worked in the USMC angle, like they are some special class above everyone else), 2. Hate our president, his policies, and his war, and 3. Are the reason why the big 2.5 can't rise up and reclaim market share...

[SlavesandBulldozers]

57. i agree

on your take of how the angle is being played. it's disgusting.

[LiberalFighter]

61. These Marines are worthless

UAW, using laid-off workers for labor, is building a $300,000 home for the Veterans of Foreign Wars. The home in Eaton Rapids will operate a residential program for children of veterans who don't have parents, or whose parents can't care for them.


Response by Lt Col Joe Rutledge

You either support the Marines or you don't," said Lt. Col. Joe Rutledge, commanding officer of the battalion's active duty instructors. "I'm telling my Marines that they're no longer parking there."

At a time when U.S. armed forces are fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan, quibbling over parking privileges is "silly," Rutledge said.

mailto:[e-mail]
7600 East Jefferson Avenue
Detroit, Michigan 48214
[phone]

[NNN0LHI]

63. "You either support the Marines or you don't"

Kind of like you are either with us or you are with the terrorists. I say fuck Lt Col Joe Rutledge and the horse he rode in on and tell him to go build his own damn Bush loving parking lot. End of story.

Don

[LiberalFighter]

66. Address, phone and email was included in my post :)

[leesa]

55. Do we actually know what 'foreign cars' are anymore? I mean, they're made

all over the place. Aren't some Toyotas and other brands made in the US?

[Orsino]

58. Aw.

The headline had me hoping that UAW members were objecting to the recruitment of Americans for an evil, unnecessary war. But bravo to them for saying no to Bushista bumper stickers!

[Rainscents]

60. I know for fact that, all Toyota sold in America is assembled in USA.

However, parts are imported... but still, as long as we can assemble car here to keep Union workers working is better than not having jobs at all.

This is same true for Boeing too... Most of the parts comes from over sea, however, it is assemble here in US of A to keep Union members working. I would much rather see we made the parts and assemble it here. GOD BLESS UAW for STANDING UP!!!:bounce:

[billbuckhead]

72. Echo's, Scions , Celica's, MR2's, 4runners aren't "made" in

America. This Toyota "made" in America hoax is public relations. They hollow manufacture over here because our wages are cheap compared to Japan.

[d_b]

65. Damn

I thought buying Toyota was buying blue