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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 11:56 PM
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Big fireball over Portland, visible from N. California to WA state
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 12:17 AM by Barrett808
Breaking on Northwest Cable News, http://www.nwcn.com. Not posted at the site yet.

Reports are saying it was as big/bright as the moon, with a long trail. 7:40 PM Pacific. Fell west of Portland, over the ocean.

Coincided with a 3.3 magnitude earthquake in the Hood Canal.

We've also had several power dropouts this evening here in Seattle since that time.

Thanks to TwoSparkles for the first link:
http://www.kptv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3069321
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 11:58 PM
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1. Link? n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:00 AM
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2. Oh Wow thats Big One Keep us posted Please
:kick:
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:02 AM
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3. all the news stations are still stuck in Judge killer mode
eom
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:03 AM
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4. Good Lord!
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:04 AM
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5. uh, big as the moon?
Sorry, the moon is 1/4 the size of the Earth- a bit big.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:14 AM
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19. could be as big as the moon from prespective
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BrendaStarr Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:39 AM
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41. I think the person meant as big as the moon's image from the earth.
Dang why didn't I move to Oregon.

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:52 PM
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118. I live here and I missed it!
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 12:55 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
I was veging in front of the evil propaganda box!!! uuggh!


d*mnit!

on edit - link to KATU, articles, viewer sightings....

http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=75658
http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=75661

The earthquake near Olympia...

http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=75660

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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:08 AM
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91. perhaps they mean as bright as the moon...
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 09:22 AM
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104. half a degree in angular diameter
but physically much smaller than the moon since it was atmospheric and not 250,000 miles away
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:05 AM
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6. My lights have been flickering off and on all evening
I wondered what was going on... very weird.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:20 AM
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29. Do you live in/near Seattle? n/t
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:47 AM
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100. I live in Montlake n/t
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:24 AM
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32. NWCN now saying Broad St. substation is down, 3,000 w/o power
"Unrelated" to fireball and earthquake.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:38 AM
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39. I've had whole days like that.
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:05 AM
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7. Methinks someone's having us on.
Nothing at the link provided.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:06 AM
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9. Sorry, it's only local TV broadcast right now. n/t
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:06 AM
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8. Hope it wasn't a nuke from Bremerton. nt
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:38 AM
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80. Or was that Bangor???
I lived in Seattle in the 80's, can't remember where the "boomers" moored. Somewhere on the Hood Canal.
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:55 AM
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87. No, there is a different base you need to worry about and it's not Bangor.
Keyport, is a very small base were they do some really weird crap. it's in the area by bermerton and bangor.

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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:06 AM
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10. huh?
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 12:07 AM by democracyindanger
Absolutely nothing on nwcn.com, katu.com or koin.com.

Looking for a few Saturday night laughs?
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:19 AM
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27. they're talking about it on northwest cable news now.
right now they think it was a meteorite. but no one's sure yet. i'm in tacoma i didn't see it either but then i'm inside :)
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:06 AM
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11. Odd... I'm just east of Seattle and haven't seen anything.
On the bright side, maybe it's the Rapture!
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:07 AM
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12. I'm in Magnolia, and I didn't see it either. :( n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:21 AM
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96. Surely someone from Texas saw it?
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 07:21 AM by 0007
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:08 AM
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13. Let us know what it was, please.
Thanks.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:08 AM
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14. They're asking if anyone has video of it at this site:
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:09 AM
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16. Cool, thanks for finding that. n/t
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:09 AM
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15. So...this was reported on television...
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 12:10 AM by TwoSparkles
...but it has not hit the site yet?

I tried to find an article at the link, and I didn't see the story.

Sounds like an interesting story...

As big as the moon, huh? Any reports of Rove near that area? :)
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:11 AM
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17. "KOMO NEWS ALERT: If you have video or pictures of the meteor"
Meteor? WTF?!?!? WTF is going on?!
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:13 AM
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18. i saw something, about newport/lincoln city, OR coast
briefly in the horizon...thought I was seeing things.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:14 AM
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20. Link to a story about this.........(KPTV)
http://www.kptv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3069321

PORTLAND - A flaming object was spotted streaking through the Saturday night sky across Western Oregon and the impact was heard all the way from Salem to Medford, according to various reports.

Newspapers across the western half of the state and KPTV were getting phone calls from people who saw the object.

Summer Jensen of Portland said she was sitting in her living room with her father when they saw the flash of light outside and rushed to see what it was.

"I've never seen anything like that," Jensen said, adding that the object appeared to be moving slowly compared to a typical meteor, or "shooting star."

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:21 AM
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68. it says "the impact was heard"....
apparently it has crashed? Did the metor cause the 3.3 EQ?
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:24 AM
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70. You set us to a "Fox" site...lol Who do you think "Fox" burned and threw
up in the air....lol
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Amfortas Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:14 AM
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21. It's just a fireball folks !
they happen occasionally .... probably went down in a deserted area ....
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:18 AM
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26. Would a fireball move slow through the sky...
as witnesses are reporting?

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Amfortas Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:25 AM
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33. then it could be a reentry of some space junk.
that happens also .... it could be some old rocket booster , or an old satellite ...
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:47 AM
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45. Probably a bolide
they skim the atmosphere's surface sometimes, appearing to move in a slow horizontal fashion across the sky. Sometimes they bounce back up into outer space, sometimes they fall to earth.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:05 AM
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60. I found this article about something very similar
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/meteor_washington_040603.html

SEATTLE (AP) -- A meteor about the size of a computer monitor flashed across the Northwest sky early Thursday, setting off booms that stunned witnesses.

"There was some question as to whether it was a piece of space junk burning up, but it was not,'' said Geoff Chester, a spokesman for the Naval Observatory in Washington, D.C. "As far as I've been able to figure out, it was simply a rock falling out of the sky, as they are wont to do on occasion.''

Chester said it was a type of meteor called a bolide, one that appears like a fireball in the sky, and was about the size of a small piece of luggage or a computer monitor.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:18 AM
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63. I remember that night
I was awake that night doing my homework...and about 2:45 ish there was this bright yellow glow in the sky that flashed through the eastern windows of my house. And then I heard this rumbling sound....checked on the kids and the house to make sure it wasn't a fire and that was it....
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:27 AM
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71. I remember that night too
the sound was amazing and my curtains were blowing in and out as though on waves of sound. way weird. I'm on the south end of Whidbey Island.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:34 AM
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37. "Just a fireball"? Where do you live that a fireball in the sky is nothing
to get excited about?
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Amfortas Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:39 AM
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40. I'm an amateur astronomer....
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 12:40 AM by Amfortas
So I saw "A LOT" of meteors and fireballs , the big ones are rare , but I saw one or two .... these things happen , and occasionally you get a monster one ... It's a rare event , but other than being a beautiful sight we are in no danger whatsoever!
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:47 AM
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47. I saw one of these a few years back
I was north of Indianapolis at the time and when it came down it lit up the whole sky and looked like it was just a few miles away. However, when the news reports came out later that day it was determined that it went down in eastern Ohio, about 200 miles away.

But it was an awesome site and yes it did appear to move slowly across the sky.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:43 AM
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99. Was that around 6 something in the morning?
I saw a "fireball" a few years back, in the morning walking to catch a bus, I heard it too...it was quite pretty, and a little scary.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 09:15 AM
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103. Yes around 5:30 or 6:00
The incident I am referring to was about 15 years ago around 1990 and I remember it was cold. But yea it was both beautiful and a little scary.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:42 AM
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111. I saw one like that in Northern Canada once
The object swept across the entire sky in about 20 seconds, brighter than Venus by perhaps 10X, could have been as bright as 3.3 magnitude, as the above object was. It was especially dramatic, since it was a few hundred miles from any city lights, so very good seeing.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:50 AM
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50. Very cool. My buddy has a Meade 10 inch scope. He set it up on a nearby
golf course one night. We were looking at the moon. He was taking a turn and I looked up and said "Don't move something's coming" A 757 flew right through the path while he was looking. He could see people in the plane ordering extra pillows. Well, ok, not that close, but it was a gas.
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Amfortas Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:03 AM
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59. Cool !
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:56 AM
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88. WIth so much urban sprawl and light pollution these days..
people seem to forget that there's all kinds of stuff up there in the night sky, and sometimes a little bit of it crosses our path.

Fireballs are not uncommon, but they don't usually get noticed in urban areas unless they are particularly large or bright.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 09:27 AM
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105. DU Rule #23
The simple scientific explanation must always take a back seat to a wild conspiracy theory.

Read the rules, man! Don't go suggesting that a flash in the sky might have *only been a meteor.*

:P
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:35 AM
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92. No Doubt. Now I've got something else to worry about EOM
!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:14 AM
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22. I'm scared. Is this the end? Somebody hold me.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:26 AM
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34. Holding, holding.
Don't be scared. :grouphug:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:36 AM
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38. Whew. OK. I'm better. Thank you bar bar bar...bar bar baran.
Oh BarbarAAAAAN :)
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:43 AM
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43. I know you'll be there for me if I need a hug
and perhaps a special tune, too. ;)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:16 AM
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23. Link: Mystery Object Lights Up NW Sky
Mystery object lights up Northwest sky
March 12, 2005, 10:47 PM CST Email to a Friend Printer Friendly Version



PORTLAND - A flaming object was spotted streaking through the Saturday night sky across Western Oregon and the impact was heard all the way from Salem to Medford, according to various reports.

Newspapers across the western half of the state and KPTV were getting phone calls from people who saw the object.

Summer Jensen of Portland said she was sitting in her living room with her father when they saw the flash of light outside and rushed to see what it was.

"I've never seen anything like that," Jensen said, adding that the object appeared to be moving slowly compared to a typical meteor, or "shooting star."

http://www.kptv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3069321
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:33 AM
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75. Thanks for posting the first MSM report nt
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:18 AM
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24. Do we know where this hit yet?
We've got family and friends all through that area.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:19 AM
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28. Probably hit in the Pacific
If it made it to sea level.
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inslee08 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:51 AM
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52. Wouldn't that cause a tsunami?
Or would it disintegrate before hitting the water?
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:37 AM
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78. On a farm just outside Grovers Mill. nt
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:52 AM
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86. LOL
For a year and a half during the 90s, I literally lived right across the street from where the martians landed, in Grovers Mill NJ. There's actually a monument and everything in tribute to HG Wells...thanks for bringing back the memory
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 02:02 AM
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89. We take you now to Grovers Mill ...
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 02:05 AM by drdtroit
"Well, I... hardly know where to begin, to paint for you a word picture of the strange scene before my eyes, like something out of a modern "Arabian Nights."
Well, I just got here. I haven't had a chance to look around yet. I guess that's it. Yes, I guess that's the thing, directly in front of me, half buried in a vast pit. Must have struck with terrific force. The ground is covered with splinters of a tree it must have struck on its way down.
What I can see of the object itself doesn't look very much like a meteor, at least not the meteors I've seen. It looks more like a huge cylinder. It has a diameter of... what would you say, Professor Pierson?"
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:28 AM
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108. To continue....
"PROF. PIERSON
(OFF-MIC) What's that?
CARL PHILLIPS
What would you say... what is the diameter of this?
PROF. PIERSON
About thirty yards.
CARL PHILLIPS
About thirty yards... The metal on the sheath is... well, I've never seen anything like it. The color is sort of yellowish-white. Curious spectators now are pressing close to the object in spite of the efforts of the police to keep them back. They're getting in front of my line of vision. Would you mind standing to one side, please?
POLICEMAN
One side, there, one side.
CARL PHILLIPS
While the policemen are pushing the crowd back, here's Mr. Wilmuth, owner of the farm here. He may have some interesting facts to add.
Mr. Wilmuth, would you please tell the radio audience as much as you remember of this rather unusual visitor that dropped in your backyard? Step closer, please.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Mr. Wilmuth.
MR. WILMUTH
Well, I was listenin' to the radio.
CARL PHILLIPS
Closer and louder please.
MR. WILMUTH
Pardon me!
CARL PHILLIPS
Louder, please, and closer.
MR. WILMUTH
Yes, sir — I was listening to the radio and kinda drowsin', that Professor fellow was talkin' about Mars, so I was half dozin' and half...
CARL PHILLIPS
Yes, yes, Mr. Wilmuth. And er... then what happened?
MR. WILMUTH
Well, as I was sayin', I was listenin' to the radio kinda halfways...
CARL PHILLIPS
Yes, Mr. Wilmuth, and then you saw something?
MR. WILMUTH
Not first off. I heard something.
CARL PHILLIPS
And what did you hear?
MR. WILMUTH
A hissing sound. Like this: (HISSES)
Kinda like a fourth of July rocket.
CARL PHILLIPS
Yes, then what?
MR. WILMUTH
I turned my head out the window and would have swore I was to sleep and dreamin'."

Read the original full script of H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds radio broadcast here:

http://members.aol.com/jeff1070/script.html

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:18 AM
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25. Here comes Jeebus! n/t
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:22 AM
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30. The Rapture is coming... the rapture is coming, the rapture is here!!!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:52 AM
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53. Actually, the rapture is the bird flu. It won't be nearly as fun as this.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:56 AM
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56. No no, bird is "raptor"
:)
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:06 AM
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61. HA! Thank you. It's so hard to track it all.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:14 AM
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62. raptors do fly, past tense, you know, raptor flew?
I'll go away
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:22 AM
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69. Funny!!! LOL
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:29 AM
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73. Oh yeah..I'm there, rapture, raptor, flew, fly...don't ever hold back :)
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:42 PM
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117. Good! Bring on the Rapture...our country/world needs a break.
This stupid "Rapture" thing can't happen soon enough for my tastes...a couple of thousand years without fundamentalist Xtians would be refreshing.

JB
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:23 AM
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31. Somebody Blew The Conversion Of The Mothership Landing Calculations
from Vogon differential to Galactic standard.
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Amfortas Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:28 AM
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35. oh noooo.....
I hate vogon peotry ! just kills me ...
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:00 AM
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101. You absolutely must read "The Salmon of Doubt"
Or whatever it's called. Incredibly funny book.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:30 AM
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36. Kablooey.
Bush Names Missile Defense Veteran to Head NASA

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Michael Griffin, a former chief engineer at NASA who has also worked on missile defense systems, was named on Friday as President Bush's choice to head the U.S. space agency.
...
Griffin is head of the space department at the Applied Physics Laboratory of Johns Hopkins University, which works on civilian and military space programs, including missile and air defense and national security analysis.

Previously, he was president of In-Q-Tel, the CIA's private venture capital arm, and worked at Orbital Sciences Corp. , which develops rockets and missiles.

Earlier in his career, Griffin served as NASA's chief engineer and as deputy for technology at the Strategic Defense Initiative Organization, founded in 1984 to develop a space-based anti-missile defense popularly known as "Star Wars." The program was abandoned in 1993.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=7882011&src=rss/ElectionCoverage


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1304455

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:42 AM
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42. Here's where the earthquake was centered
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Amfortas Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:46 AM
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44. It seems to have reached the ground....
wow , this seems to to have been a big one !
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:48 AM
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48. Bangor Submarine Base is not far from there.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:34 AM
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76. see post #8 nt
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:46 AM
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83. Bremerton is in a different place.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:47 AM
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46. komotv link to story (Seattle)
http://komotv.com/stories/35704.htm

SEATTLE - A flaming object was spotted streaking through the night sky across Western Oregon, Washington and reportedly as far south as northern California. Hundreds of Washington residents called the KOMO news desk to report seeing a bright green object streak across the sky just before 8 p.m.

Summer Jensen of Portland said she was sitting in her living room with her father when she saw the flash of light outside and rushed to see what it was. She said the object appeared to be moving slowly compared to a typical meteor, or "shooting star." Callers as far north as Vancouver, British Columbia reported seeing the flash.

Officials with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in Seattle said the description was consistent with a meteor hitting the upper levels of the Earth's atmosphere. They do not believe the object made it to the ground.
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:50 AM
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51. since when do meteors that burn up have a major sonic boom crash sound?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:49 AM
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49. NWCN just showed the first video
Very brief, captured from somebody's TV. Looked like a big, bright, greenish meteor.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:56 AM
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54. oh
any link to that?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:01 AM
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58. Not yet, sorry
They may post it here: http://www.nwcn.com.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:18 AM
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64. thanks
will be checking. I just ate a boat load of snacks because I thought we all were going to die. Damn it. I guess a trip to the threadmill on Monday.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:20 AM
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66. LOL
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:56 AM
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55. Damn. I'm in Portland and I completely missed it.
:(
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:57 AM
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57. 9:59 outside Seattle, time to catch the 10:00 news.& I'm back to report
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 01:12 AM by uppityperson
Edited to add- video from Oregon showing a light in the sky. Not much so far except to stress over and over that there is NO connection between the 3.3 earthquake at 7:37, the meteor fireball at 7:47 and the power outage at 7:48 (the latter was caused by something completely unrelated, a big wire happened to fall apart or some such just at that moment). On the 1 hand, coincidences happen, on the other, too bad I distrust the media so much.

wish I'd seen it. Oh yes, they would like anyone with digital videos of either the meteor or the power outage to call any Seattle station they can, leading me to want to send in a totally black video (yup, the power is out in that room too).
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:20 AM
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67. I was starting to think bush cut a deal with the Romulans
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 01:34 AM by cynatnite
which explained the green color :eyes:
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Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:38 AM
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79. COINCIDENCES
3 things going terribly, terribly wrong... reminds me of a recent election...
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:19 AM
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65. Klaatu Virada Nikto
...:eyes:
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:28 AM
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72. ooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:31 AM
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74. oooooOOOOOOOOO
Close encounters?
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gort Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:07 AM
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131. You want me to do what to Klaatu?
The order Klaatu gave me was to not destroy earth.

You've told me to perform an unnatural act with a Indian and a horse.(nod to Lenny Bruce.)

It's "Klaatu, barada nikto", not Virada.

Please, words can kill.

Gort
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:14 AM
Response to Reply #131
132. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:34 AM
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77. Saw it
I live on the Olympic Peninsula and saw it traveling SE to NW as I was facing the Olympic Mountains. It was not high in the sky though, it was falling fast. Did not hear a sonic boom though.

It was a beautiful color - turquoise surrounded by white and a white flaming tail.
Very Cool.
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Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:41 AM
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81. oxidation color of turqoise
is a result of burning copper. Perhaps it is, in fact, a meteorite. (meteors don't enter the earth's atmosphere; meteorites make it through.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:49 AM
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85. thanks for the info
that's interesting. the turquoise was more to the green than the blue if that makes a difference.


Also there did not appear to be a disturbance of the air this time. The animals appeared not to notice it. The last meteorite did make a loud noise, a kind of suction sensation on the roof of my house and the animals were totally silent and then they went nuts.

(I live down from an animal reserve that has a Kodiak bear, lions, tigers etc. so that can get really loud )
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Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:12 PM
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126. wow... i like where you live...
you'll nae be wrecked by teletsunamis, for the animals will awaken ye...

yeah, for oxidiation of copper, just look at the statute of liberty... which has apparently expired since George Washington Bridge heisted office...

guess you can tell I live on the Eastern Skiboard...
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:45 AM
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82. Some day Ballistic Missile Defense will stop this interplanetary terrorism
Perhaps a preemptive attack on the asteroid belt may be needed too.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #82
107. now that's funny...
thanks...that made my morning.

:D
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Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:46 AM
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84. Portland University has a fireball report form, reported here...
Portland State University Department of Geology, 17 Cramer Hall 1721 SW Broadway, P.O. Box 751 Portland, OR 97207-0751 Tel. (503) 287-6733

Fig. 1: Fireball Report Form Your Name, Address & Phone __________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Observation Date: _________________________________ Local Time: ________________________________ Observer’s Name: ____________________________________________________________________________ Address: ___________________________________________________________________________________ Phone Number: Home (________) ________________________Work (_________) _______________________ Observation Site: __________________________________________________________ In Car? ____________ Direction Observer Was Facing: _______________________ Fireball Moved: L to R ________ R to L ________ Path: Parallel to Horizon ______ Overhead ______ Straight Down ______ Downward at some angle __________ ____________________________________________________________________________________________ First Sighting: Azimuth ___________________________ Altitude ______________________________________ Last Sighting: Azimuth ___________________________ Altitude ______________________________________ Duration (seconds): ___________ Apparent Velocity: Fast _____ Medium _____ Slow _____ Not Moving ______ Brightness: Too Bright to Look at __________ Brighter than __________ or as Bright as Full Moon ___________ Brighter Than _________ or as Bright as Venus _________ Objects cast shadows ______________ Diameter Compared to Full Moon: ________________________________________________________________ Color: _____________________________________ Shape: ___________________________________________ Change in Brightness and/or Color and/or Shape: ____________________________________________________ Trail: Sparks ______________ Smoke ______________ Length _______________ Duration _________________ Termination: Flared Brightly _______ Fragmented _________ (Number of Fragments ______________________) Passed out of view while still bright _________ (in clouds ______________ in trees __________________ Behind Building _________ Below Horizon ______________) Vanished above Horizon _______________ Sounds Heard : With fireball _________ After termination _________ (how long after? _____________________) What sorts of sound? _____________________________________________________________________ Did you feel or experience any kind of strange sensation? ______________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________________________ Comments and Sketches: Use back of report form.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 02:36 AM
Response to Reply #84
90. Portland has them so often there's a standard form????????
Why Portland???? NYC does not have a form for fireballs. We do not have fireballs. Why is that?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:38 AM
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98. Ummmmmm... n/t
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:30 PM
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120. Portland is special, between USA and Asia
They are the down to earth pragmatic types that never get flustered about flaming objects flying overhead. People in Portland are able to take quick measurements as a fireball passes overhead (azimuth, altitude, # of fragments, brightness compared to Venus and the moon, etc). Besides, they are near the Pacific ocean, but not on it. They have trees and hills and buildings and mountains nearby. The large number of fireballs experienced in and near Portland balances off the ice storms they have, and the Columbia River is right there to drain off the water from the rapidly melted ice.

I like this line in the form: "Did you feel or experience any kind of strange sensation?"
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Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:04 PM
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124. sensational fireballs
Ozone is a truly incredible sensation, one associated with fireballs. I think it's like mystical "orgone" -- I've deeply, deeply inhaled ozone off of some neon-quack type machines -- dunno whether it'll prevent me from getting cancer, but the high is really... uh, discreet...
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:39 AM
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93. RAPTURE! JEEBUS IS COMING!
QUICK! EVERYBODY LOOK BUSY!
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:06 AM
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94. It's The BLOB!!!!!!!!11111
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:48 AM
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134. That movie gave me nightmares for a year, had my dad check under my
bed evernight, nightmares. thanks for reminding me, I think.
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kuozzman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:11 AM
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95. It's probably just more "wickid weather".
This doesn't seem very out of the ordinary these days. A couple feet of snow (or rain) in a few hours, maybe some fires here and there, volcanic eruptions, mudslides, 60 degree daily temperature swings.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:49 AM
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102. The other day in the middle of PA...
it was 74 degrees. As if that isnt weird enough the temperature dropped 40 degrees in two hours. :wtf:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:32 AM
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110. The greater the imbalance is, the more extreme the correction
will be.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:37 AM
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97. We all know it was a UFO - men from Mars. Just admit it.:)
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 09:47 AM
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106. Saturday morning I noticed two fighter jets in the area
I live in a place that is devoid of all aircraft, except for an occasional private plane. I chose this place partly for that reason, having lived near commercial and military flight zones all of my life. But yesterday I went outside to the noise of two fighter jets. They were over the Coos Bay area, and were basically goofing around in the sky for half an hour. This is very unusual except for airshows. Now I have to wonder if there is some kind of correlation to whatever this flaming turd was, and the military. Silly humans. So smart, yet so dumb.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:31 AM
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109. Saw it in Eugene
It was in the Western Sky looked like a large meteor, by the accounts of the people who walked out onto the sidewalk before me and said, holy shit, did you see that? Wonder what that was? Dang I missed it by 2 seconds....

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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:25 AM
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129. What was it?
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:43 AM
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112. Was it west to east or east to west,
and did it have North Korean plates????

"My heart would be a fireball..."
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:45 AM
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114. It was going down in the west
That is all I know..I'll ask and see if I can find out more....
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:45 AM
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113. Now this is very interesting
This is the second of two meteors that the Pacific NW has seen in the night sky the last 9 months...the last one was June 3. Why are we so lucky to see these events?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:47 AM
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115. Probably happens a lot. Just seeing more now owing to the drought
No clouds = Hey, there's stuff up there in the sky! epiphanies.

Same reaction as when my L.A. cousins would visit us out on the desert in the 60s. When the youngest was 3 or 4, someone pointed out something in the night sky and the kid flipped out. Had never noticed stars before.

Daughter's pal from the East Coast Megalopolis was very concerned about the fact that it was dark at night when he went to the University of Arizona. The dark creeped him out. Had never actually seen dark before.



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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:30 PM
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116. God, what's this?
Thanks Barrett, for providing this information.

I'm south of Portland. Did you see anything? I slept like a baby all night, nothing unusual.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:25 PM
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119. here's a news clip with video of the event.....
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juslikagrzly Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 02:13 PM
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121. Thanks
FYI, registration at the news site is required
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 02:20 PM
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122. I didn't have to....guess it's bein' overloaded or somethin'.....
:shrug:

....you're welcome! :hi:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:32 PM
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123. I didn't have to register either...
Wow... a basketball size meteor...
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Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:09 PM
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125. Of course the real question here...
is where were Carl and Nancy during the fireball, and how come nobody has video of them in the same place at the same time?

For that matter, how come nobody has ever seen pictures of George Bush and Osama Bin Laden at the same place and time? I think George looks like bin Laden, sans beard. Anyone care to photoshop that together?
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:34 PM
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127. Bin done


Everything's been done...on the internet.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:37 AM
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133. ...is why was Farmer Bob videotaping the night sky right then?
Coincidence? Perhaps... :tinfoilhat:

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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:54 PM
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128. This thread is a Neo DU'ers wet dream!
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:54 AM
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130. Fireballs and earthquakes frequently coincide
However, nobody's figured out why.

Unless you count this
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sffreeways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 04:35 AM
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135. The Glomar Explorer has recently
Edited on Tue Mar-15-05 04:36 AM by sffreeways
been taken out of mothballs perhaps it can go and retrieve whatever dropped into the ocean this time too. Probably not, they disassembled the rig used to pick up the last UFO shot down over the ocean back in the 70's. Sounds like it would be too big for that moonbay anyway.

Sure wish I had seen this. Lucky Oregonians...
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