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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:20 AM
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US Troops Give Tacit Nod to Vigilante Justice-Destabilization
Troops give tacit nod to vigilante justice

By Ned Parker
Agence France-Presse

“These guys operate like a mob, if they kill one of their's they have to take revenge, they have to. They kill the guy and everything will be fine, the vengeance stops,” says Captain Doug Hoyt, charged with local governance for the 3rd Infantry Division in Dura.

Here, the revenge killings and vigilante justice that Iraqi national leaders speak out against for fear of sparking a civil war are becoming a regular fact and have received at least a tacit nod from US troops. Hoyt says the Americans have had little choice in Dura where tribal traditions run deep and insurgents regularly blow up police stations, ambush convoys and murder people.

Hoyt hopes that with time, the US influence will promote the rule of law and strengthen Iraqi public institutions.

But prominent Iraqis have warned that the American policy of cultivating tribal leaders can often undermine the democratic process.

“It is not the direction we want to go ... It was the policy of Saddam,” says Iraq's UN Ambassador Samir Sumaiydah, referring to the ousted Iraqi president.

<snip>

For the US army, Malik is their enforcer who will make sure their public works projects get done and will deliver them solid information on the insurgency raging in Dura. In turn, officers award him contracts and if he comes under attack, by their own admission, they look the other way when he settles scores. The Americans compare the dynamics to that of the US mafia.

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On almost any project in Dura, Malik is receiving a cut. “Sayed Malik has a huge influence. We've given him tonnes of contracts. The 1-8 claims they made him a millionaire,” Hoyt says, alluding to his predecessors, from whom he inherited his policies.

http://www.jordantimes.com/fri/news/news6.htm
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yo-yo-ma Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:44 AM
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1. is it death squads
or vigilante justice
or is there a difference?

great idea, cultivating "tribal leaders" (whatever that really means).

similar policy seems to be serving the world heroin market well in Afganastan.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:54 AM
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3. NEGROPONTE approves this SHIT
The BUTCHER of Central America achieves arousal, thinking of the burned decapitated children who are kiled by these fanatics and their suicide car bombs.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:52 AM
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2. "It was the policy of Saddam"
Once again.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:57 AM
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4. Rule of Law!?
"But prominent Iraqis have warned that the American policy of cultivating tribal leaders can often undermine the democratic process."
When will the Bu$h Tribe or Mafia or BFEE be captured and tried?
Looks like anyone in the world, except for Murikans know how to call a spade a spade.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 07:54 AM
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5. Um, does this mean Iraq
is not amenable to "democracy" and the recent election was just a sham?

And does this mean that everyone knows this, especially the "coalition" forces on the ground over there, except * and his neocon court jesters?

Saddam worked with tribal leaders like this for three decades. Everyone admits this. We are now doing the same thing. So what did we bring to Iraq, after all? Certainly not democracy. No, we brought death and destruction to countless civilians just so we could run one guy out of office whom we are now emulating.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 07:56 AM
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ausiedownunderground Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 08:10 AM
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7. What do you expect when your getting the shit kicked out of you!
US forces are hiding in their heavily fortified bases just like their ambassador and his cronies. Centcom lives in Qatar!!!! US "Grunts" on the ground can do anything they want really, and i don't think anybody outside of the Iraqi Guerrillas really even thinks about it! But nobody also cares how many "Grunts" are killed and wounded either!!! Its America's 150,000 well armed and disciplined troops versus unknown numbers of potentially 8 year Iraq-Iran battle hardened Iraqi Guerrilla's. And we haven't even thought about "The Jihad's" yet!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:13 PM
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8. chlamor
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 03:35 PM
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10. Sorry
My Bad
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:32 PM
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9. it goes beyond a tacit nod
there's no doubt that the U.S. is actively favoring certain factions in a desperate attempt to salvage something from this fiasco.

We'll find the full details years from now...
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