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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:21 PM
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Bush warns 'rogue states'
The usual unintentional irony.

President George W Bush on Monday called for punishing countries that desert the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty and beefing up the United Nations nuclear watchdog agency's powers.

"We cannot allow rogue states that violate their commitments and defy the international community to undermine the NPT's fundamental role in strengthening international security," Bush said in a statement.

"We must therefore close the loopholes that allow states to produce nuclear materials that can be used to build bombs under the cover of civilian nuclear programs," he said.

The US leader did not name names, but Washington has been locked in disputes over nuclear programmes in North Korea - which pulled out of the NPT in 2003 to world shock - and Iran, which Washington has accused of seeking atomic weapons under the guise of developing a civilian nuclear programme.

News24
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:28 PM
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1. so when is he invading the blue states
is he going to start with New York, Massachusetts or California
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:31 PM
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6. things could get bad enough to where
he would declare martial law in the blue states for 'civil unrest' then he can put that beautiful Rex84 plan into action.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:58 PM
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22. George, Stay OUT of Massachusetts.
We want nothin' that you're a sellin'
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:28 PM
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2. The only country allowed to develop and hold nuclear weapons is
the United States of America.
We are the only ones that know how to use them, look at Japan.

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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:29 PM
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3. a direct threat against Iran
another country that doesn't toe our line and is not a threat to our security, but shrub will convince everybody (on the right) that they have warheads pointed at us and a finger on the button, how convenient that they have all that oil. I say we are in there by May.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:47 PM
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13. Does seem to be aimed at Iran. nt
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 02:48 PM by bemildred
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:29 PM
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4. Correct me please if I am wrong...
but didn't the U.S. recently pull out of the Nuclear Non-proliferation treaty?

Olaf
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freestyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:28 PM
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16. Not yet, it was the ABM treaty, and we never ratified CTB
The bush junta pulled out of the anti-ballistic missile treaty to pursue the idiotic missile shield. Also, the U.S. never ratified the comprehensive test ban treaty. The joint effect of these actions is actually far uglier and more hypocritical than abandoning non-proliferation. The bush junta wants to keep the door open to weapons development and entertain fantasies of stopping missiles from reaching the U.S. There are some folks still crazy enough to think it is possible to "win" a nuclear war, and they work in the bush junta.

The U.S. really has no problem with nuclear proliferation as long as we like who is developing the weapons. You will never hear a U.S. official call for an end to Israel's nuclear program.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:30 PM
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5. Fuck off, *
You've made us into the biggest "rogue state" there is.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:33 PM
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8. exactly
Indeed, how can the egophrenic leader of the world's biggest and worst rogue nation call others rogue?

Oh wait, he and most Americans think that the USA is the world's beacon of freedom and democracy. Righteeeooo.

Sue
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happyhead Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:38 PM
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10. Welcome......
......to the New American Century. Can I take my life now or did W want to do it for me???
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:32 PM
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7. I would be interested in
the compliance of the US. Something tells me that this is another "Do as I say, not as I do" situation.

Cheers
Drifter
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:34 PM
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9. These chest beating warnings from an absolute coward
make me sick. :puke:

Few will see anything else but the hare brained nincompoop's words on Fox, Cnn, \and everywhere else spouting off "warnings" to other little countries. Note, he does not attempt to lord it over Russia or China. They will think to themself--my what a peace loving man who is looking out for our safety. He is a war president and did the right thing to invade Iraq on lies. The lies were necessary in order to capture Saddam and bring freedom, liberty and democracy to poor, uneducated, third world people. That is what they will be encouraged to think and that is what they will think.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:45 PM
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11. Thus spake Ceasar Disgustus, Chimperor Codpiece
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 02:47 PM by TahitiNut
Sociopath, pathological narcissist, and general all-around sleaze-bag.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:47 PM
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12. Even to a typical red stater, Bush has got to be sounding like Hitler
at this point.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:41 PM
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23. 'Fraid not, lebkuchen.
Those who voted for him are saying, "Right on!" They've not a clue.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:50 PM
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14. Defy their committments..... how far behind are we on dues to the UN
and the pledges for AIDS relief in Africa? What about our commitment to family planning that the President slashed? What about our commitment to finding WMD's or Osama?

Commitment my ass
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:57 PM
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15. This is just a side bar
just a 5-minute "Quickie" diversion, while they get back to their planning meetings.

The REAL agenda: Hugo Chavez, Khatami and all the others.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 04:09 PM
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17. dang, I thought you wrote "rogue steaks", hoping for madcow topic
I have to start reading the headlines better before I click on them. Have I mentioned how much I loathe Mr.bush and fear for the world yet today? This is the pot calling the kettle black.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 04:41 PM
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18. Didn't HE abandon the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty?
What an ass!
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:57 PM
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21. An Ass?
Oh, yes indeed BUT more than that he is "Evil Incarnate" and scarey as hell---him and his whole bunch. I am very worried for how long can they continue to convince the naive people who are caught up in his seemingc earnestness and little smiles and jokes and BULLSHIT. Here in my immediate area they love the sonofabitch. Oh, and his brother, who is governor. SHEESH!
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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:24 PM
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19. He's got no authority with other countries
It was W's antagonism that encouraged these countries toward nukes. He's nuts:crazy:
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:26 PM
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20. Hate to be soooo childish, but I'm really tired of him flinging his poo!
Seems when he gets into his trantrum moments he starts flinging poo and I'm sooooo tired of it!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:44 PM
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24. So dissing a Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty is bad
but building a "whole new type of nuke" as we in America are doing, well that's OKAY cuz it's US. We have the morals of saints and would never use WMDs or nukes on anyone. Honest.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 10:42 PM
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25. India, Pakistan, and Israel are NOT signatories to the NPT.
All have nuclear technology. But Chimperor Codpiece is buddy-buddy with Medacious Mushy. Go figure. (Asshole!) :grr:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:01 PM
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26. Takes one to know one...
rogue state that is. From one rogue state to another?
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:51 PM
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27. Meanwhile the world is discovering we aren't much more than a paper tiger.

The biggest most expensive military in the world is bogged down in a nation without even a government. Not only can't we stop them, we can't stop them from killing our own troops.

The biggest economy in the world is pouring jobs out like a flushed toilet, and the jobs that are left pay less than they used to.

We have more citizens not covered for health care than many nations have citizens.

We owe more, both as a nation and as individuals, than any other nation in the world, maybe more than EVERY other nation in the world.

We keep driving our former friends away, while the rest of the world is making alliances to counter us.

Used to be, when we said something it had some moral force behind it. Now the world doesn't see us as moral, and they don't fear our force.

Who would have thought that in just four years a moral idiot could have reversed what was built up in a half century.

Amazing.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:57 PM
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28. In Canada we just voted to not have nukes in our country - they didn't
seem to like that in Washington. I think they are flip-floppers.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 12:03 AM
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29. What do you call a state that:
Edited on Wed Mar-09-05 12:09 AM by LynnTheDem
1. Violates UN resolutions, including ones they wrote.

2. Violates the UN Charter, a signed & ratified treaty the state's Constitution deems "the law of the land".

3. Violates the Geneva Conventions.

4. Launches an unprovoked war of aggression.

5. Violates the state's laws, International law, and several signed & ratified treaties.

6. Publicly announces the state's intention to assassinate another nation's leader?

7. Uses internationally banned chemical weapons in an unprovoked war of aggression?

8. During occupation of a country, commits atrocities and war crimes such as rape, torture, murder.

9. Steals $9 billion from the state's own people.

10. Hands out $ billions and no-bid contracts to friends and family of the state's government.

11. Has extraordinary renditions as official policy.

12. Has torture as official policy.

13. Declares the state above any and all laws.

14. Declares the right to detain and "disappear" anyone they want, with no recourse to legal aid, trial, or even charges.

15. Deserts the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treat, which the state is a founding member of, by seeking new nuclear weapons.

16. Threatens to use nuclear weapons against any other nation it decides to.

17. Threatens attacks and invasions on other nations it doesn't like.

18. Kidnaps another nation's democratically elected leader and installs an ally from a third country.

I'd call that a rogue state. I'd also call that AMERICA under bush.
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