Bush and Chirac Reopen Wounds

[chlamor]

America


February 23, 2005

Bush and Chirac reopen wounds
From Roland Watson and Anthony Browne in Brussels


TWELVE hours after sharing an intimate lobster risotto and proclaiming an end to their Iraq war feud, President Bush and Jaques Chirac were yesterday at loggerheads on a range of issues.

The pair disagreed on China, Iran, Iraq and the future of Nato, marring efforts by US and European leaders to declare that transatlantic relations had entered a new era of harmony.

As Mr Bush attended consecutive summits with Nato and EU heads of government Brussels police fired water cannon to break up demonstrations against his presence.

On Iran, M.Chirac urged Mr Bush to back European efforts to dissuade Tehran from pursuing nuclear weapons by granting it economic and trade benefits. M Chirac said that Iran should be allowed to buy civil aircraft engines and to join the World Trade Organisation. “I don’t see why that should not be done and I said so to the President of the United States,” he said.

More specifically, Gerhard Schröder, the German Chancellor, said that the EU wanted to sell European Airbuses to Iran.

But Mr Bush is opposed to Britain, France and Germany, the three EU countries negotiating directly with Tehran, offering such incentives.

Mr Bush declared: “We liberated Iraq. And that decision has been made, it’s over with and now it is time to unify for the sake of peace. The key now is to put that behind us and to focus on helping the new democracy succeed.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1496255,00.html

[GetTheRightVote]

1. I hope they turn their backs on * who continues with his lies

:kick:

[JohnyCanuck]

2. Uh oh. I guess its back to freedom fries again. n/t

[ailsagirl]

26. I'm surprised the righties haven't demanded the demolition

of the Statue of Liberty since, after all, it was made in France...

[PartyPooper]

3. So, "We liberated Iraq"? And, Junior has the unmitigated gall

to say "peace" in the same paragraph?!?

:wtf: is wrong with him?!?

[tabasco]

4. But on Monday, CNN had already declared the trip ...

a great success !

Yep, he was barely on the ground before the whores were screeching Fake Cowboy's trip a great success.

There is a great article here too:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x108157

[donco6]

5. Yes.

I've heard nothing but positive press - Europe loves Bush. Nothing about protests or disagreements. Jeez, we're so fucked.

[bpilgrim]

7. M$MH thought being polite during dinner would be all the cover they needed

bush is a failure and PISSING everyone off...

Bush: Arrogance instead of diplomacy before (russian) summit

02/22/2005 10:15
...

"Russia, to make progress as a European nation must renew a commitment to democracy and the rule of law".

Democracy? President Putin was elected by a democratic process, was he not? Rule of law? Did the Russian Federation break every rule in the book by breaching the Geneva Convention and UN Charter, launching an illegal war, based on barefaced lies, slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent people in a sovereign nation? No.

Therefore what authority does George Bush have to speak about the rule of law and a commitment to democracy?

"Our alliance stands for a free press", says Bush.

Well, let us be the judge of that. We are free to write what we want, when we want, where we want and as we want. We can criticize President Putin, we can praise President Putin. I have done both. Many times. But only when I criticize President Bush do I receive death threats in my private and personal e-mail account.

more...
http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/399/14999_bush.html

peace

[Laurab]

12. An excellent article

the writer "gets it" more than many american's do. * should work on the "free press" here at home - oh, wait, he's already done that.

[bpilgrim]

18. bush bringing democracy to the world (GRAPHIC)

http://images.globalfreepress.com

don't forget to vote for your favorites ;->

peace

[Laurab]

29. LOL - it suits him

it really, really does!

[Mokito]

22. Well...he got out of the plane without hurting himself, didn't he?

So it's a success!

[cthrumatrix]

64. CNN delcared it a success before shrub left for europe

[LynnTheDem]

6. bush is such an arrogant stupid lying asshole.

No bush, it ain't "over with".

[chlamor]

9. I Think

Chirac, Putin and most are having dinner with le chimpanzee and just are stupefied at the amount and degree of international idiocy that slips out of his mouth. You don't have to be a cheerleader for France or Russia to recognize what a buffoon this bushie is. Embarrassing.

[LynnTheDem]

63. Agreed. The rest of the world has real diplomats with real intelligence

We have...bush. The wannabe pretend cowboy who's scared of horses and can't even pronounce "nuclear" properly.

[peekaloo]

8. rut roh, it seems the charm has turned offensive.

:cry:

[Skip Intro]

10. How dare they not capitulate to our whims!

Don't they know about the mandate, and w being chosen by God and all?

[KC21304]

15. And the " Gaul" of the French not to serve Mr. and Mrs. Bushie

Tex-Mex and barbecue.

[reprobate]

19. The "Gaul of the French"? Well, apun my word.

[Hieronymus]

21. Apparently, it means as much to them.............

as it does to me.....Zip!
Sooner or later Junior Bush has to wake up to the fact that the EU has more people and about the same size economy as we do. They are demanding to be listened to.:eyes:

[ixion]

11. really makin' friends fast over there, georgie boy

:eyes:

and the humiliation continues. :-(

[opihimoimoi]

13. Its back to Freedom Bread

Sacre Bleu

[rfkrfk]

14. why are these Europeans, hanging around with that stupid guy?

You are known by the company you keep.
If they want to sell something, just sell.

[inslee08]

16. "On Iran...

"On Iran, M.Chirac urged Mr Bush to back European efforts to dissuade Tehran from pursuing nuclear weapons by granting it economic and trade benefits. M Chirac said that Iran should be allowed to buy civil aircraft engines and to join the World Trade Organisation. “I don’t see why that should not be done and I said so to the President of the United States,"

Can someone explain this to me? It does seem an odd thing to do, to reward Iran for starting their nuclear program.

[aneerkoinos]

24. Here comes

Iran has been now fulfilling all its LEGAL commitments under the nuclear proliferation treaty. Which BTW states that all countries have right for peacefull use of nuclear energy.

The EU - Iran negotiations with support of IAEA are about trust building measures because Iran in the past has not been fully honest about it's nuclear program. So EU want's Iran to do MORE (ie not to enrich uranium) than it is obligated under international treaties. And quite understandably Iran wants something in return for giving up some of it's legal rights, and that is recognition as equal nation and full member in the new world order (=WTO).

As for the "rewards", well Europe likes to sell Airbuss planes and build trade partnerships, not only because trade is good for Europe (and Iran), but because the whole EU is based on the idea that close trade (and other) relationships are also a guarantee of peace and stability and strenthen democracy in the long term, and EU does not apply this basic philosophy only between memberstates, but with all foreign policy and especially neighboring areas.

[Matilda]

34. Europe thinks it's better to make friends than push Iran to war.

They're a bit funny like that. I'm sure Junior doesn't understand
where they're coming from either - he's in total denial.

[MadisonProgressive]

17. Bush is an ass

and I just hope I live long enough to see his historic demise.

[cliss]

30. Me too, Madison.

I plan to stick around long enough to see it.

[hatrack]

20. My favorite tidbit from Chimpy's Excellent European Adventure

NPR's report tonight that all 26 members of the EU had agreed to support training for Iraq's police/officer corps.

France's contribution? One additional officer at NATO headquarters to coordinate equipment and/or supply shipments to Iraq. And this in addition to the news that ChimpCo considers a total NATO pledge of $5.2 million (that's million with an "M") to the mission described above as "symbolically important".

HAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[proudbluestater]

25. France antes up a single troop, that's like leaving a penny for a tip

Gets the point across very clearly.

[ginnyinWI]

23. oh but what about when he said, during a debate:

"you tell Tony Blair we're going it alone!!" Now he has flip flopped and acted like they all did it together??

[Zerex71]

27. I like how a**hole Bush just acts like when he says something,

it goes, end of discussion. Newsflash, a**munch - The world doesn't revolve around your coke-addled visions of Rapture and simpleton musings.

[pauliedangerously]

28. So does that mean we'll have to freedom kiss too? nt

[Hardrada]

33. Freedom Poodles

Dyed red, white and blue!

[burrowowl]

31. Bu$h is

an ass (insulting to donkeys and much needed part of the anatomy), dumb as a pail of rocks Iinsulting to rocks, a chimp (insulting to any primate), etc.
Bu$h is a sociopath or psychopath, now we are talking.

[Supersedeas]

69. but the sound of water-cannons outside must make him feel right at home

[AgadorSparticus]

32. yeaaa, that went REALLLLLLL well.

<snip>

But Mr Putin told Slovak media that Russia would pursue its own brand of democracy. “The fundamental principles and institutions of democracy must be adapted to the realities of Russian life today, to our traditions and our history,” he said. “And we will do this ourselves.”

if that isn't the biggest "FUCK YOU" from pootie to georgie, i don't know what is. that must sting a good bit considering king george is used to a certain level of ass kissing. gotta laugh at that one.

[xchrom]

35. only bush could get so much so wrong.

[earthside]

36. Chirac snub to Bush

Chirac snub to Bush

The Sun - February 22, 2005

IRAQ war wobbler Jacques Chirac scuttled George Bush’s fence-mending trip to Europe yesterday — by cranking up a row over the future of Nato.

He embraced a German-led plot to ditch the alliance as the backbone of transatlantic relations, in favour of the European Union.

He also snubbed President Bush by speaking French at a dinner, despite having fluent English.

[Canadian Socialist]

37. Oh please tell me

that our PM Paul Martin replied in perfect French. Because that would really piss Bush off.

[Skittles]

61. lol

I LOVE IT! :thumbsup:

[earthside]

38. Imagine!

Just think, Jacques Chirac speaking French in Europe .... what will those frogs do next to insult "our commander-in-chief during a time of war"?

[TahitiNut]

39. His Chimperial Mendacity Caesar Disgustus doesn't speak French ...

... but he has an excuse: he doesn't speak fluent English.


The Sun is a tabloid Tory rag isn't it?

[aneerkoinos]

43. Sun

No, that is Murdoch (Fox-channel ring a bell?) filth, and Murdoch the Kingmaker has been supporting Blair from the beginning, naturally given that the poodle does what good ol' Rupert wants.

[truthisfreedom]

60. but el cheney does! (pardon his French when speaking on the Senate floor)

heh

[burrowowl]

70. Chirac's English is better than Bu$h's

He spent time in the U$ when younger.
He speaks French to give the translators a job and probably to check out the translation transcripts to see if what was translated is correct.

[SodoffBush]

40. Bush left a leadership vacuum in his incompetent wake

Chirac is smart to fill it on behalf of the EU. After all, it's been the EU Bush has attempted to undermine for the last four years. Why play nice now?

[Metrix]

41. May I suggest

that if Chirac had spoken fluent English, that also would have been a snub to Bush.

[Jim Sagle]

45. And w wouldn't have understood it any better than he understands French.

;-)

[K8-EEE]

51. LOL!!!

They're all just trying to make Bush look like an idiot...what an easy job THAT is...

[saltpoint]

53. : )

(thank you for that great line)

[WhiteTara]

42. During the photo op

Chirac wouldn't even look at *! Chimpy would just stare and
stare and Chirac looked like he just sucked a lemon and stared
straight ahead.  When they shook hands, Chirac could barely
bring himself to touch *

[SodoffBush]

49. Chirac had hosted Bush during the 60th Anniversary of D-Day

and Bush watched the parade marches of the allied vets like he'd smoked too much pot...he was dazed, bored, and appeared to be chewing gum. He also missed the plot of what a real alliance was.

Chirac, meanwhile, was the picture of dignity.

Then, there was Cheney dressed like a snowbunny at Auschwitz, breaking all standards of protocol.

Chirac has a litany of reasons why Bush has every right to be treated like the maniacal spoiled brat that he is.

[Judi Lynn]

62. It probably seemed he'd been there years before he left.

It must be goddawful being forced to babysit this lunatic, while pretending you're speaking with an actual functioning adult.

[BrotherBuzz]

44. LOL, was David Gregory there?

"I’m impressed. Que bueno. Now I am literate in two languages." - George W.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/06/01_little.html

[pacalo]

55. I had forgotten about that David Gregory incident. Thanks for the article.

[grytpype]

46. This put a big smile on my face.

I'm glad Europe isn't falling into line behind Idiot Boy, because that would really be depressing.

[cliss]

56. Same here. This thread made my day.

I was worried when BeetleBrain was bragging that he and Chirac "are now friends". He mentioned that he was eating dinner with Chirac, and "That should tell you something".

Whew -- wipes sweat from forehead.

[autorank]

47. Now that's gratitude for you!

After Bush said Jacques was "a good cowboy." Doesn't Chirac know that's the highest compliment a faux cowboy can give a feller.

OK, I just figured it out. The power elite is doing a rope-a-dope by letting * stay president; getting the rest of the world over confident; and then, we spring it on them and come out swinging in the new global economy. Hmmm....

:tinfoilhat:

[chookie]

50. Can he NOT be an asshole for 5 minutes? Once, even?

Talk about a congenital idiot. It's like he has Tourette's.

This faux Texas shit is really tiresome.

[autorank]

58. He doesn't ride horses. He doesn't hunt. No, not even for 5 min. LOL

[Hieronymus]

48. Junior Bush made a bitchy comment to David Gregory..........

when he dared to ask Chirac a question in French, that was also in France.:freak:

[librechik]

52. Chriac to Shrub: "No, merci, I have no wish to be a cowboy...

if they're anything like you, you NE elitist hypocrite"

[Dirk39]

54. Bush to Chirac:

when asked if he would invite Chirac to his ranch in Crawford:

"I'm looking for a good cowboy"

http://www.jungewelt.de/2005/02-23/004.php


On the other hand, I'm a bit confused about the way, Bush's visit in Europe is perceived at DU.
It seems that all the mainstream media and our leaders from Chirac to Schröder really try to comfort Bush.
Germany's export industy highly depends on the USA, while Bush is coming here, searching for a coalition to invade Iran and Syria.

The Bush-adminstration still has weapons to blackmail Europe.

Bush just as Chirac welcomed Schröder's suggestions to reform the Nato.

If you're a puritan pervert idiot, looking for tits, the Sun might be the right choice; but otherwise, I wouldn't even use it as toilet paper.


Hello from Germany,
Dirk

[Dr Fate]

57. Kerry would have understood the French.

While I have my doubts about Bush concerning correct English.

[frankieT]

59. I'm afraid there is some kind of "reconciliation"

between Europe and Bush. French MSM are playing now the friendship tune...
Maybe there is some heavy arm-twisting or a big deal. France and US spoke together in the Lebanon-Syria case: Bush is offering Chirac Lebanon in exchange for a support in his next crusade.
I noticed also how the french MSM are now speaking of "terrorists" attacks inside Iraq instead of "insurgents".

[emad]

65. Bush and Chirac reopen wounds

Times
From Roland Watson and Anthony Browne in Brussels



TWELVE hours after sharing an intimate lobster risotto and proclaiming an end to their Iraq war feud, President Bush and Jaques Chirac were yesterday at loggerheads on a range of issues.

The pair disagreed on China, Iran, Iraq and the future of Nato, marring efforts by US and European leaders to declare that transatlantic relations had entered a new era of harmony.

As Mr Bush attended consecutive summits with Nato and EU heads of government Brussels police fired water cannon to break up demonstrations against his presence.

In Moscow, President Putin took issue with Mr Bush’s criticism of his drift towards authoritarianism, saying that Russia would develop its own form of democracy without foreign interference.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4289777.stm

[peacetalksforall]

66. So there, PNAC, AEI, JINSA,, Fed Soc - we wish that could put a stop sign

on your street, but you will probably just 'missile' right over it because you're determined and in a hurry to complete your agenda.

[Norquist Nemesis]

67. Well, there you have it. Right on schedule!!

Condi goes in 'diplomatically' paving the way and setting the prep for Bush to claim credit for great things accomplished in the name of freedom and democracy, only for Bush to show up and stay the course with resolve to fuck things up...again.

[in_cog_ni_to]

68. "We liberated Iraq?" Get real, Bonzo.

What an embarrassment that idiot is. I just cringe when his handlers let him outside the confines of Crawford Texas.

He's the one who alienated the EU from the U.S. He's responsible and it will take generations to repair all the damage he's done to our foreign relations. Friggin' fool. Have I told you today just how much I HATE that man?

[kentuck]

71. For real....

He's enslaved us all and liberated no one...