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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:14 PM
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World churches see illegality at Guantanamo
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5552522

GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Council of Churches (WCC), the main global body uniting non-Catholic Christians,
has accused the United States of violating international law in its treatment of detainees at its Guantanamo naval
base.

The Council, which includes many U.S. churches in its 342-church membership, also called on the administration
of President George W. Bush to grant full legal rights to the some 600 foreign nationals detained at a camp on the
base in Cuba.

The prisoners there "are held without due process and in total violation of the norms and standards of international
humanitarian and human rights law," a statement issued by the Council's Central Committee declared.

The statement was supported by the U.S. National Council of Churches (NCC), which links 36 Protestant,
Orthodox and Afro-American communities across the country and has been campaigning for the detainees to be
granted due legal process.

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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:22 PM
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1. Interesting that this comes AFTER the election of 2004
Likely it's meaningless posturing, but that's just my gut feeling.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:59 PM
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15. Yep, another "values" post-election revelation -- 52 Warnings anyone
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:39 PM
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2. World Churches Say U.S. Violates Law at Guantanamo
GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Council of Churches (WCC), the main global body uniting non-Catholic Christians, accused the United States on Monday of violating international law in its treatment of detainees at its Guantanamo naval base.

The Council, which includes many U.S. churches in its 342-church membership, also called on the administration of President Bush to grant full legal rights to the some 600 foreign nationals detained at a camp on the base in Cuba.
The prisoners there "are held without due process and in total violation of the norms and standards of international humanitarian and human rights law," a statement issued by the Council's Central Committee declared.

The statement was supported by the U.S. National Council of Churches (NCC), which links 36 Protestant, Orthodox and Afro-American communities across the country and has been campaigning for the detainees to be granted due legal process.
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The Council statement, issued after a session of its steering Central Committee, also called on the administration to allow the NCC to visit the detainees -- many held since the end of 2001 as part of the administration's "war on terror."
It also called on all NCC churches to educate their congregations on the situation of those held at the base and to urge believers to call "for the release of those being held in detention under inhuman conditions."

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=7688944
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:39 PM
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3. Like that is going to mean anything.
The Nazis control the churches in America. They will not do anything to displease Der Führer!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:26 PM
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11. Not all the churches, ZR
Just this Sunday, my parish heard a sermon about the dangers of the "born again" movement.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:17 PM
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14. All I can say is I saw what Jesus did to my son
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 08:18 PM by The Zanti Regent
Jesus turned my son into a hateful selfish bigot who couldn't wait to get out of high school and kill sand CENSOREDS for Jesus.

I pleaded with him not to go to church and come back to the temple where he was raised, but, sadly, Jesus infected him.

He went off to war, took a bullet in the spine and died at 19 last thanksgiving.

The hatred I have for Christianity knows no bounds.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:15 PM
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16. I'm so sorry about your son. I don't know why various religions ...
... are so often used to fill people with self-righteous pride and violence.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:39 PM
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4. To the true credit of the Pope, he appeared to do his best --
-- in condemning Bush's disastrous decision to attack Iraq. Now, the "non-Catholic" folks weigh in.

A little late, people, but I'm happy to hear SOMETHING out of the religious community -- those famous "prince-of-peace" folks, many of whom in the U.S. stood in line for hours in the rain to vote for an administration that wages mindless war.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:39 PM
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5. And some of us "prince of peace" folks
Who have demonstrated and continue to demonstrate in the streets against this immoral and corrupt war, only to be ridiculed by the media, dismissed as nothing more than a "focus group" by the powers that be, and abandoned by our fellow citizens, who didn't want to be tainted by association with anything "religious."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:52 PM
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7. Fine and well. In the Catholic Church, there are not --
-- enough Francises of Assissi and in the "non-Catholic" group there aren't enough with the clarity and conviction you've shown with these protests.

Anyone -- of faith or not -- will have to take heat for challenging the status quo. That's the way it goes. If you fire on Fort Sumpter, there WILL be a response.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:01 PM
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8. Well, your first post
Your first post seemed to indicate that "prince of peace" folks hadn't been saying anything about this corrupt and immoral war, or that all folks of faith were solidly behind Mr. Bush. I was just making a record to the contrary.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:08 PM
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9. With respect, gratuitous, you were offering yourself --
-- as the exception, which appears to be true, and therefore admirable.

I gave you a compliment, you see.

But my original sentiment is also true: a majority of "Christians" in this country voted for George W. Bush.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:27 PM
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12. No Shit!
Hummmmmmmmmmmmm... Where were they before the election???
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:41 PM
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6. Could the WCC know more than our Godly and Noble Fuhrer Bushler?
No way, they must be Liberal Traitor Enemies of the State or they would bow down and recognize what a Gift of God our Noble and Just Fuhrer Bushler is.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:13 PM
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10. WCC (including BUSH's own church) also opposed the invasion of Iraq
But rightwingnuts & bush are not Christians and only CHERRY-PICK their religious doctrine the way they cherry-pick "WMD" intell and everything else.

Lucifer does that, too.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:28 PM
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13. The wingnuts have always hated the World Council of Churches
They consider it a "Communist front organization," because it oppsed the Vietnam War and the interventions in Central America.

Yet the World Council of Churches encompasses the majority of the world's Protestant and Eastern Orthodox denominations.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:32 PM
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17. Just like the UN
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