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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 01:49 AM
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Ozone hole three times size of US
http://english.aljazeera.net/Articles/ScienceTechno/Ozone+hole+reaches+record+proportions.htm

The huge size of the hole in the ozone layer is at a record level measuring 28 million square kilometres, according to the World Meterological Organisation.


Three times the size of the United States, the ozone hole has continued to grow over the last few weeks and is set to reach a maximum size in late September.

The consequences are likely to be serious and far-reaching.

WMO Professor Obasi warned on Wednesday that the most immediate threat to humankind relate to “increased variability in the intensity and frequency of storms … floods and droughts, heat waves in major urban areas and the impact of sea-level rise on low-lying coastal regions”.


Time to put on your sun glasses kiddies. It's going to be a scorcher.

Fill her up.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 01:57 AM
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1. Holy Shite...
Is this the hole over New Zealand or a new discovery?
This is REALLY bad news.
I pity the future generations, the children being born today
and over the last twenty years...what a disaster we are leaving
for them to try and survive in.
God forgive us for not fighting back harder and sooner.
BHN
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:11 AM
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4. Once agin, Gore was right.
When he wrote his book "Earth in the balance".
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ropi Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 01:59 AM
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2. not too shocking
With Sir Whistlebutt in office and repealing all sorts of environmental protections and dumping the environment as a priority, it's a wonder that the ozone is still there. Instead of tinfoil hats, we are going to have to be wearing Ozone hats to keep from burning up. How sad that the ozone has deteriorated to such a large extent since * has been in office.

Truly, I am an optimist and I hope that some people see this and wake up to the devastation that will occur. Yet, I am sure many a Freeper and a sleeper will choose to ignore this and allow the ozone layer to totally diminish.

Thanks for placing this post and providing the link. I am going to share this with others as well.

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:05 AM
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3. Surely You Must Mean Sir Cement Head
We all know that concrete is impervious to most anything!
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 03:37 AM
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5. a couple of months ago there was a story on Brazilian rain forests
It was so shocking I blacked out the exact details.

I think (?) it was something like there would be no rain forests left in less than 10 years.

It was something incomprehensible but completely rang true as to the warnings that were issued when we started celebrating Earth Day in the 1970s. They said......"20-30 years from now, If......." And it's all right upon us.

I don't blame just Bush. Our whole generation is responsible
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:59 AM
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6. Not just our generation
but the generations before us as well. My God that is freightening and oh so sad.
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R Hickey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 11:18 AM
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7. Capitalism is exterminating the human race.
Once we finally totally capitalize our environment, we will have destroyed everything. Man's invention, capitalism, like man's invention of fire, has to be controled, because left unchecked, it will consume everything.

It looks like mankind's future on this world will be the same as the history of Easter Island before the white man came. (They used up all thier trees, and they were trapped.)
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 12:32 PM
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8. ...seems this is the last thing most everybody thinks about.....
....when it's THE most important issue...a person in this very forum the other day told me and I quote...."....leave me and my paper products alone!" this was while they were railing on and on about people smoking cigarettes :eyes:

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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:32 PM
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21. Just to nitpick but....
man didn't invent fire.

Easter Island, England, Vancouver Island...and so on...all were once covered in lush forest.
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R Hickey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 11:14 PM
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22. OK
Technically, mankind didn't invent fire, he/she 'discovered' it. However, mankind did invent the use of flint, matches, and lighters which start fires, and fuels, and methods to put fires out.

The difference between England chopping down all her trees, and Easter Island's deforestation, is that the people of Easter Island could not import or grow new trees.

When the trees were gone, the people of Easter Island could no longer construct boats. They could no longer fish. Their food was restricted to what they could gather by beach-combing. They built huge stone gods, and prayed to them, hoping to be saved. But instead their standard of living declined, and their society degenerated into several tribes which knocked over each other's stone gods, and almost wiped themselves out.

When European sailors discovered Easter Island, the natives were said to be the most wretched people the sailors had ever seen. The Easter Islanders had nothing. They lived in caves, and were so poor, they didn't even have any cloths.

Now, I know that with the help of some syphilis germs and small pox, or if there had been any gold nearby, that the sailors might have wiped out even a prosperous, forrested island, and gotten an equally appalling result in a few years after their arrival, but that is not what happened, and not the point of the story.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 03:05 PM
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9. I live in S. Florida
I am terrified now.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 03:21 PM
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10. Do penguins use sunscreen?
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 03:22 PM by 0rganism
Really, I'm beginning to think humans are ill-suited for life on Earth. It's been said that only a poorly-evolved virus or bacteria actually kills its host, and that's exactly what we appear to be doing to the planet. Maybe we started out on Mars, and fucked it up so bad we had to migrate here?

I think my view of humanity is reaching new and improved lows.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 04:30 PM
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14. yes we are a bad desease
That is why when there are disasters of epic proportions and thousands of people die, I have very mixed feelings about it.

Okay flame away folks. I am convinced there are no ills here that can not be fixed or improved by having a whole lot less people on earth. People die of starvation and desease because they have reached or exceded the carrying capacity of their environment.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 03:51 PM
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11. Do you want to read something SCARY!?
Here is a link to 28 questions answered by someone with insider information about the extent to which our environment has been destroyed. This person claims that the chemtrail activity we see in our skies is a desperate attempt to save the human race from extinction. Here is a quote:

"Without spraying we have a 90% + chance of becoming extinct as a species with in the next 20 years."

At first I wasn't sure what to make of chemtrails, but now that I have read this piece, and discover the truth about the ozone hole, I can't help but believe that this is all true.

And yes, Gore is the person we could have really have used as President right now.

Check this out!! This person exposes what is going on in our skies!
http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/shieldproject.html


Also, this insider recommends research on specific topics such as skin cancer rates. I did a little research, and would you believe that 1 OUT OF EVERY 2 PEOPLE living in Australia and New Zealand will get skin cancer in their lifetimes?! A direct result of the hole in the ozone.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:13 PM
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15. Thanks for the link, spooked! That is UNBELIEVABLY frightening!
I've seen an awful lot of those 'chemtrails' before...and, I always thought they were jet airplane exhaust. Yikes! But, now I am scared...very scared! :scared:

BTW, Welcome to DU!

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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:39 PM
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16. Yes, this is very scary.
I have looked at some of these chemtrail links over the past year or so, but this is the first one that I read linking it to ozone repair. I think they are being used for at least one secretive purpose, but am still not convinced what that is. There have been some theories regarding mind control, communications/eaves dropping, etc. I think there are some patents by Hughes for this technology. Perhaps one of the patents mentioned atmosphere reflectivity changes to reduce global warming.

All I can say is keep an open mind about this. Another scary project is HAARP (High Altitude Auroral Research Project) in Alaska, coming to Greenland soon, but that's another story.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 04:08 PM
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12. We can thank the American media - recall how they adored "w"??
Remember - the hated Gore was ....a liar ....as they nitpicked his every word to death - just like they are doing to Dean now.
Gore didn't schmooze them and suck up like "w" did - mixing their margaritas in the back of the press plane, etc.
The loathsome Gore took money at a Buddhist temple - heaven forfend - the whole nation trembles at the thought!
In the meantime the most incompetent and nasty POS sneaks in the back door to the White House - but its OK because he's a good ole boy and can make such a great "margo's"!!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 04:24 PM
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13. No problem, crispy critters
This makes me think of that character in The Stand. I can't remember his name but he was always setting fires and burning himself. At one point he is in the desert sun with no place to escape, he just got burnt day after day.

That is how I feel, like we have no damn place to get away and we are either going to cook or drown.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:13 PM
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18. The character was Trashcan Man
And now that you mention it, he reminds me of George W. Bush. I think King was trying to warn us.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:26 AM
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24. Torch -
he loved Randall Flagg, was his biggest fan, and in the end, his destruction.
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DeathvadeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 07:05 PM
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17. Ozone Hole Over Antarctic Equals 2000 Record -U.N
GENEVA (Reuters) - The ozone hole over the Antarctic has equalled the 2000 record, covering an area larger than North America, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) said on Friday.

Over the past two weeks, the hole has widened from 9.63 million sq miles to 10.78 million sq miles, but it is "too early to predict with certainty" whether it has peaked, the United Nations body said.

The maximum is normally attained in mid-September.

<http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=3475143>
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:22 PM
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19. Spooked ( #11) - that's amazing - and scary !
I read most of it - then did a google

came up with MORE that supports that link - not that I ever disbelieve the wickedness of Governments !!

GOOGLE link

Playing God with the Atmosphere - article with links

I almost wish I did not believe - but too many links from different sources NOT to believe

oh dear oh dear -

VERY Concerned Canuk
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:21 AM
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23. Project Censored--Space Shuttles destroyed the ozone layer!!

I followed one of your links to "Project Censored" that claims it is the space shuttle program that has destroyed (and continues to destroy) the ozone layer! Here is a quote:

http://www.leftwatch.com/articles/2002/000072.html

"Project Censored, of course, warned the world back in 1990, making the Space Shuttle's ongoing decimation of the ozone layer it's #2 story, leading with a harrowing quote from that world renowned expert on the ozone hole, Dr. Helen Caldicott, who it quoted as saying,


Every time the space shuttle is launched, 250 tons of hydrochloric acid is released into the air. With each launch, .25 percent of the ozone is destroyed. So far, the space shuttle has destroyed 10 percent of the ozone.

And that was just through 1989. There have been 83 subsequent launches of the space shuttle, each doing horrific damage to the ozone layer. Citing Soviet scientists Valery Burdakov and Vyacheslav Fiin, Project Censored noted that just 300 total shuttle flights would be enough to "completely destroy the Earth's protective ozone shield" -- we're more than a third of the way there."


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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:23 PM
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20. About the same size as the shit hole Dubya has dug for "US"
:grr:
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