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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:29 AM
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Bin Laden¡¯s film maker sues Michael Moore
Sunday Times
Nick Fielding



A FORMER close associate of Osama Bin Laden is to sue the film-maker Michael Moore for using his footage of the Al-Qaeda chief in the documentary Fahrenheit 9/11.

Essam Deraz, an Egyptian, spent almost four years in Afghanistan filming Bin Laden at training camps and fighting, gaining unprecedented access to the terrorist leader.

He was the only person to film Bin Laden during the late 1980s and has the only footage of the Saudi exile in battle in Afghanistan.

Deraz has started legal action in Egypt and America to seek compensation for use of his footage in Fahrenheit 9/11, the biggest-grossing documentary in cinema history.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1472041,00.html
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:37 AM
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1. Too funny
Who would a wingnut side with in this one? I guess we know the answer. After all, Baker's law firm defended the Saudis against Sept 11 survivers/families.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:42 AM
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2. Moore's lawyer could depose bin Laden to authenticate the footage
Right. :shrug:

Sounds like Essam Deraz wants his paycheck. However, his footage has been seen so often in mainstream media (who I also doubt paid for it), I wonder who's aiming this guy at Moore instead of them?

Probably some al Queda-loving Republican.

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:44 AM
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3. more evidence of who OBL is still working for... the neoCONs!
ah, more opportunity to talk about the nefarious ties our GOV has to the Saudis, Egyptians and OBL himself :evilgrin:

the more f911 stays in the media spotlight the better :bounce:

peace
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:47 AM
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5. Even then W would be able to catch him
:grr:
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:45 AM
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4. Where's that tort reform now
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:31 AM
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6. Is Osama going to testify?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:34 AM
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7. This is hysteriacal. I hope it goes forward because he may have insight
into who has been playing OBL lately in the CIA films.
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candle_bright Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:35 AM
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8. I wonder how MM got the footage?
I'd suspect that would have some bearing on the validity of these lawsuits.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:47 PM
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10. Everything I saw in the movie had been broadcast
I suspect he bought it from Al Jazeera just like CNN and Faux did.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:51 PM
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14. Exactly why this lawsuit has no merit
Unless he can prove he gave express permission to the networks, he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Fair use will kick in.

He can sue overseas where the laws are different, but getting anything out of it (other than satisfaction) is also difficult.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:39 AM
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9. Bin Ladens and Bushco, a team from hell....
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:58 PM
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11. Okay. Where is this guy coming from?
Other than 'Michael Moore took my film footage', what else is he trying to say? And, frankly, what's the point?
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:15 PM
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12. Bin Laden’s film maker sues Michael Moore
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=35

February 06, 2005

Bin Laden’s film maker sues Michael Moore
Nick Fielding

A FORMER close associate of Osama Bin Laden is to sue the film-maker Michael Moore for using his footage of the Al-Qaeda chief in the documentary Fahrenheit 9/11.

Essam Deraz, an Egyptian, spent almost four years in Afghanistan filming Bin Laden at training camps and fighting, gaining unprecedented access to the terrorist leader.

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Deraz claims he had not signed a distribution agreement with Moore or anyone else. “I was the only cameraman with the Arabs. All of those shots of Bin Laden talking in the cave, talking into his walkie-talkie, they were all my work.

“I was there from 1986-89 and was in contact with Bin Laden on many occasions. I saw him in Peshawar in Pakistan and in Jalalabad in Afghanistan. The film clips in Fahrenheit 9/11 — five of them — were mostly shot in March and April 1989.

moore here:

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=35
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djeseru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:15 PM
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13. "Where's my Fahrenheit 9/11 money?"
Looks like someone wants to get paid...
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:04 PM
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15. More forgot something:
He should have voiced in: "I'm Osama Bin Laden and I approve this message".
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Sivafae Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:54 AM
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16. that is hilarious!
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