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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 04:45 AM
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Iraq's interim president predicts departure of some troops by year's end
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) Iraq's interim president said Tuesday that some of the 170,000 U.S. and other foreign troops could be out of Iraq after the end of this year.

President Ghazi al-Yawer said foreign troops should leave only after Iraq's security forces are built up, the country's security situation has improved and some pockets of terrorists are eliminated.

''By the end of this year, we could see the number of foreign troops decreasing,'' al-Yawer said.

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/032/world/Iraq_s_interim_president_predi:.shtml
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aikido15 Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 05:06 AM
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1. That's not going to work
According to reports by journalists, not in MS media that were actually there in Iraq reporting. I heard 3 of them interviewed on Democracy Now and all 3 stated that all the people they interviewed voted for US occupiers to leave NOW.

Get out, set up a monetary fund to pay for the destruction we caused, and let the Iraqis build up their own infrastructure without any Halliburtons or other US contractors, contract to Iraqis only. Let them develop their own "democracy," or not.

These people are not stupid. They have been around a long time and survived. They can fend for themselves if we just let them!
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:02 AM
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10. British MP George Galloway "Flawed Beyond Redemption"
The facts are that it is simply impossible to hold an
election when there is a full-scale war going on between
the occupying armies and the resistance forces

We have a simple demand. We say that the two leaders
who caused this disaster cannot possibly be a part of
its solution. Bush and Blair and their forces will have to go
from Iraq. That is an absolute precondition for any resolution
of this conflict and they must talk with the resistance about
how they're going to do that, over what period of time, it
would have to be a short period of
time.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/31/1517207
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:08 AM
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11. Occupied Elections: Journalist Christian Parenti
it's important to remember that this election was in many
ways forced upon the US from the very beginning of
the occupation, the Shia were demanding elections and
they were demanding elections of exactly this sort, that
would use the food rationing cards as a basis for the voter
roles

The basic equation with this war is that the US could only win
it politically. It has completely blundered that side of it,
an indication most recently what you read at the top of the
how, $8 point something billion squandered by the US. That
was the opportunity when the US could have done
reconstruction and won the hearts and minds. They
completely lost that side of the fight. Now they try to beat
the resistance militarily and it is hopeless.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/31/1517212

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 05:56 AM
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2. By the end of this year, the moon could be made of green cheese.
Pink elephants could fly.

And I could win $1 billion.

And all are as likely to happen as US troops leaving Iraq.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:29 AM
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3. I do agree
14 superbase build in Iraq. No sir, US troops are staying. They there to protect the oil for some corporation.The Iraqies can have Iraq back minus the oil. It is now US property.
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aikido15 Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:31 AM
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4. Unfortunately, you are right...
Time to step up the anti-war movement.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:01 AM
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6. As much as I wish US will leave and all this end
The reality is that its not going to happen with bush around. It is also a fact that the US troops just cant withdraw to this bases and leave the main towns. The resistance will then concentrate on the bases. Hence US troops will continue to be use for patrol to keep the resistance busy. Or else pop goes the pipeline and refinery.
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:15 AM
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12.  Military reports said that there were 260 attacks on Sunday
in Iraq — about five times the usual daily average.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-1465375,00.html

Resistance launches deadly barrage on US base in
Kirkuk.

Iraqi Resistance forces subjected the US base set up in
what formerly was Kirkuk International Airport to a fierce
mortar barrage at 8am Monday. The correspondent for
Mafkarat al-Islam in Kirkuk reported eyewitnesses as saying
that the Resistance strike hit several buildings inside the
airport inflicting severe damage.

Azad Kirkukli, the American-Iraqi Affairs Coordinator in the
city told Mafkarat al-Islam that a number of US troops were
killed in the barrage and several others wounded. Also
killed were a number of Iraqis collaborating with the
Americans and working as translators.

IRR Sunday


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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:35 AM
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5. yeah, and I predicts Jennifer Aniston in my bed by year's end
just as likely to happen as your prediction Puppert, err President Ghazi al-Yawer
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:15 AM
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7. He's right
Italy, UK and Denmark and perhaps couple other insignificant coalition members are staying, rest are leaving pretty soon. Duh!
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Bozvotros Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:03 AM
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8. Semantics
Some US troop will be leaving in flag covered boxes, in medical evacuations and troop rotations. See? He was telling the truth.
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:24 AM
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9. Indeed. You got my point, sortta.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:17 AM
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13. Apparently someone didn't get the memo
They are staying there for ever bud. They didn't perform the biggest heist in history just to give up the goods.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:55 AM
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14. No not forever
Maybe in 4 months time they will reconsider. Meanwhile bush should read more about Vietnam.
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