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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:44 AM
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Dangerous Global Warming Possible by 2025--WWF
'Dangerous' Global Warming Possible by 2026 - WWF



OSLO (Reuters) - World temperatures could surge in just two decades to a threshold likely to trigger dangerous disruptions to the earth's climate, the WWF environmental group said on Sunday.

It said the Arctic region was warming fastest, threatening the livelihoods of indigenous hunters by thawing the polar ice-cap and driving species like polar bears toward extinction by the end of the century.

"If nothing is done, the earth will have warmed by 2.0 Celsius (3.6 Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels by some time between 2026 and 2060," the WWF said in a report. . .

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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:48 AM
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1. We need an environmentalist as DNC Chair. Webb keeps looking better
Webb is anti-war, pro civil rights and the strongest environmentalist of the candidates. We need someone to stand up to Bush on environmental issues.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:49 AM
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2. The White House's scientists would beg to differ.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:01 AM
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3. Which fundie college did they get their "science" degrees at?
Creationist College, or some such clap-trap, no doubt.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:44 AM
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4. Sigh.
As the headline says, in just two decades catastrophic global warming MIGHT happen.

And it might not.

It's the worst case scenario in a bleeping computer model. And guaranteed to be completely misread by "science lovers" here and elsewhere, gleefully ditching the scientific method in the process.

But I've come to expect this.
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R Hickey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:00 AM
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6. Republican scientists believe the planet is getting colder.
Republican computer models show no evidence of global warming, or any environmental degradation whatsoever.

GOP Diebold computers have generated predictions of continous prosperity, culminating in the second comming of Christ, who will rapture up the 144 thousand Moonies, Bush 'Pioneers,' neo-con kooks, and military lobbiests, while the Democratic unbelievers shall perish in the eternal fires of damnation.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:01 PM
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8. DEM computers show a snowball's chance in hell
that GOP computer models are accurate on anything! ;)
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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:06 AM
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7. You got it slightly mangled
>> As the headline says, in just two decades catastrophic global warming MIGHT happen.<<

No, they said it might happen in two decades. Or it might happen later, or even sooner, but it's going to happen.



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Dcitizen Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:27 AM
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5. So more droughts, floods and storms as the result.
Smart people like to forecast and live with that, but

4 monster hurricans last season were meaningless to many people.
Recent scarest tsunami then maybe fade with the time.
Recall, Bible says only one Noak's arch. Thanks for posting.


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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:02 PM
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9. Noah's arc created the Grand Canyon, by the way.
The newest National Park Service info says so, so it must be true.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:30 PM
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:58 PM
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12. why would a climatologist be involved in weather forcasting?
"...Let my climotologists get the next week's forecast right, and I might listen to them."

pssst...climate and weather are two different things.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:04 PM
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13. Perecisely -- and he doesn't have a clue what anorexia is, either
Plus the "hubris" remark is eerily reminiscent of Rush Limbaugh. Must be another American who "thinks for himself." ROTFL.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:23 PM
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16. and he apparently missed Kuhn's point as well.
Doh! :crazy:
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:05 PM
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14. Huh? A distinct example of the ostrich syndrome.

If I don't see it then it isn't there?

Warmer and colder in the past? Please provide links as proof.

Connection to man make activities is slim? Do you not accept the green house effect and the contribution of man's activities re: fossil fuels?



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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:48 PM
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11. NASA alarmed about melting Arctic ice cap.
Interesting article.


Alarm over melting Arctic ice cap
October 24, 2003 - 11:29AM


The north polar ice cap is melting at an alarming rate due to global warming, NASA scientists said today, with satellite images showing the ice cap continuing to shrink.

"It is happening now. We cannot afford to wait a long period of time for technological solutions," said David Rind of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York.

"Change is in the air - literally."

The part of the Arctic Ocean that remains frozen all year round shrank at a rate of 10 per cent per decade since 1980, NASA researcher Josefino Comiso said.

That cap reached record lows in 2002 and 2003, he added.

Researchers at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration are worried because global warming speeds up as the ice cap melts, forming a vicious cycle...

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NASA images of Arctic ice cap:


1979


2003


1979 TO 2003 SEA ICE COMPARISON

These two images show a comparison of Arctic sea ice concentrations between 1979 and 2003. 1979 marks the first year that data of this kind became available in any meaningful form. To date, 2003 is the second lowest concentration of sea ice on record. Experts recorded the lowest measured concentration of sea ice during 2002--just last year. Credit: NASA


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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:18 PM
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15. US Geological Survey: The earth's incredible shrinking glaciers
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 07:19 PM by nebula
"It's very easy to see the (Pacific Northwest) glacier is much, much smaller," Krimmel says later, back at his office at U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). Seated at a computer, he looks at the side-by-side images--a photo taken in 1928 and another 60 years later.

"In the last century, it's retreated about 1.2 miles," says Krimmel, a research hydrologist and the glacier's leading researcher. "Right now, it's about 1.5 miles long. It's lost about half of its length and half its volume."

South Cascade Glacier has become the poster child for global climate change in the Pacific Northwest, contends Jon Riedel, glacier researcher for North Cascades National Park. It is thinning so much, Riedel points out, that since 1953 it has lost the equivalent of 72 feet of water in thickness off its surface.

It isn't the only case of the incredible shrinking glacier. In this icy high country, 46 of the 47 Cascade glaciers observed by Nichols College researcher Mauri Pelto were found to be retreating. Riedel, meanwhile, personally backpacks several miles to monitor four glaciers; he notices the lower-elevation, smaller glaciers on the west side of the Cascades are shrinking, a pattern also found farther south.

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