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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:39 PM
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Sen Shelby on Wolf: "Tenet should step down"
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 11:37 AM by Melinda
Wow. Shelby wants Tenet out, Levin calling for investigation.

*on edit: Mods - I posted in the wrong forum, please move to GD, thanks.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:37 AM
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1. The Repubs are getting nervous. They know someone has to go n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:21 PM
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15. The CIA is guilty of bending to the White House's wishes
If anyone should resign is Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Powell, and Rice. Bush should be impeached.

As it was pointed out on ABC this morning, the only thing the CIA is guilty of is of bending to the White House wishes and letting Bush include false intelligence information in his speeches going back to last year.
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study_war_no_more Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:54 PM
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19. weapons of mass distraction
LIHOP is coming over the hill like a big black bear and is gonna head straight for the bull.
This is the issue that will outrage the American public, pissing on the CIA will only invite more "leaks".
Neo-Cons or Neo-Morlocks?
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:37 AM
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2. I can already see what will happen...
Both sides in Congress will call for Tenet's resignation. While all the "blame-Tenet" occurs, * will prance away and escape blame. :grr:
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:43 AM
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3. Even tho we now know Tenet told the Bush * in Oct.....
that the Niger allegation shouldn't be used?

I think the 'game' is just beginning, and my money is on Tenet to take all.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:46 AM
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5. Definitely. He already opened up a veritable can of worms
when he released his statement. There's more to come!
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:46 AM
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6. I think that when Tenet is questioned
he will make a good case that he warned the Bush administration in October. It was the choice of Bush to go ahead with a lie.

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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:43 AM
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4. *whew*
I'm glad that it wasn't one of our own people asking for Tenet to step down. Sen.Shelby has made some powerful enemies for life.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:51 AM
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7. I think Shelby is getting his orders from Rove
The Republicans think that if Bush fires Tenet that Bush will be off the hook.

Democrats don't want to look alarmist. They are saying that we should investigate the intelligence agencies. The real problem is not with intelligence, however; it is with an administration that pressured the agencies to come up with intel to support their claims and to turn a blind eye when the administration distorted and lied about the truth.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:05 PM
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8. But this way makes Bush look irrelevant
For the suggestion to come from other repubs, Bush no longer looks like Dear Leader. To the contrary, it looks as though Bush's handling of the situation is flawed and in error. Criticism is criticism. If it's Rovian, it's a huge goof.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:35 PM
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16. If the WH wanted Tenet to resign
wouldn't they have gotten him to announce his resignation when he released his statement? Why drag out the inevitable? Shelby might be acting on his own.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:16 PM
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13. Naah
If he is fired he is free to tell the truth. If he stays he knows he has to keep his mouth shut.

W knows if he was let go he'd tell Congress and the public everything.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:57 PM
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21. erm...
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 04:09 PM by goobergunch
I saw on CNN last night that Sen Breaux and Rep. Markey had called for his resignation. I'll try to find a link.

on edit: LINK

Markey: http://news4colorado.com/nationworld/topstories_story_193094424.html

Can't find anything re Breaux.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:08 PM
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9. Nope, Bush says he has complete confidence in Tenet, remember?
Will that be subject to change in a few days? Doubtful. Having Tenet inside the giovernment keeps lots of secrets inside too.

If the heat on Tenet increases, look for Tenet to further "qualify" is statement....and it won't be more helpful to Bush.

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 03:25 PM
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20. The dreaded vote of
confidence?
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:09 PM
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10. Today on Meet the Press with little Timmy Russert
Donald Rumsfeld and Russert both said that Tenet tried to take that out of the SOTU address twice, it was pointed out that Chenney knew since February of '02 that it was false and yet they went with it. Rumsfeld said that the British still believe it to be true and the U.S. thought so until the Reuters news service on 3/07/03 released an article with interview from the IAEA people saying it was not true. He felt that bush should not have had that in the SOTU because it relied on intelligence from the British.

What Rummy said in a less convoluted way is this:

1) Chenney knew for 11 months prior that it was not true but still kept saying it was true

2) It was the fault of the British, who by the way still believe whole heartedly that this exist.

3) Tenet knew it was not true and tried twice to have it removed unsuccessfully
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:11 PM
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11. Gen. Wesely Clark on This Week
Just said it was BS and this is only the tip of the iceburg of the Bush lies on Iraq, which the U.S> has no business invadign for the reasons given.
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rocketdem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:15 PM
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12. SCAPEGOAT!
Is it that difficult for the American public to figure out?
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quilp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:17 PM
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14. Tenet is irrelevant. Repukes want to make him the issue!
The issue is Cheney who leaned on the CIA day after day to force what he wanted. He stood to make a lot of money from this invasion.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:52 PM
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17. In my humble opinion
I believe George Tenet has information about 911 that is not favorable to junior.

The house of cards are about to fall.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:35 PM
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18. I hope they flush him; that will destroy the administration
The many angry, itchy and afeared Intelligence officers will come out of the veritable woodwork. This will prove that they are all at risk and will be ruined over this. Much more complicity will be unmistakable seen as obstruction of justice, so it's getting close to the point of no return. Once it's seen that sticking with the administration guarantees your destruction, there will be many willing sources.

I want "The Langley Papers".

Being fired over this is the absolute end of one's professional life; it will completely destroy any scapegoats, and they may not go willingly into that night.

Fire him. Please. Compel him to step down, you underhanded scumbags; send ripples of fear and self-preservation through the CIA.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 04:51 PM
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22. George Tenet knowing who had the "real power"
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 05:08 PM by sattahipdeep
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16570-2001Mar16.html
But Krongard exhibited the requisite secretiveness when asked
to explain his interest in intelligence and how he came to land
a job in Tenet's inner circle. If you go back to the CIA's origins
during World War II in the Office of Strategic Services, he
explained, "the whole OSS was really nothing but Wall Street
bankers and lawyers."

Krongard described his role as that of a chief operating officer
and vowed to keep everyone focused. "If you ask me, 'What is your
one biggest priority?' it would be to do everything I can to
support our two basic missions here, operations and
intelligence," he said.

"If you don't worry about who gets the credit, you can
accomplish an awful lot."

Although Mr. Tenet's statement did not say he had
personally cleared the speech, he said in his statement,
"I am responsible for the approval process in my agency."

"cleared at the highest levels of the C.I.A."
Executive Director Krongard.
http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html
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