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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:39 PM
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President's father says inaugural address didn't signal foreign policy shi
President Bush's inaugural address, with its emphasis on spreading democracy and eliminating tyranny throughout the world, was not meant to signal a new direction in U.S. foreign policy nor to portray America as arrogant, his father said Saturday.
"People want to read a lot into it -- that this means new aggression or newly assertive military forces," former President Bush told reporters during an informal visit to the White House briefing room. "That's not what that speech is about. It's about freedom."
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"They certainly ought to not read into it any arrogance on the part of the United States," the former president said.
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"I'm convinced the {Iraq} elections will come off," he said. "I honestly don't keep up with the details about what sheik is doing this and what Muslim leader is saying that. I hate to say, but I'm out of it. I'm still interested, and I still read up, but I don't discuss that a lot over here (at the White House)."
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The former president visited the briefing room shortly after the current occupant of the White House returned from a mountain bike ride that ended just as heavy snow began falling in Washington. Although indoors, the elder Bush stayed bundled in his charcoal gray overcoat, scarf and blue tie as he talked about the "jillion" relatives in town for the inauguration.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2005/01/22/national1329EST0508.DTL
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:40 PM
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1. You know Jr really screwed up
when they have to trot Poppy out to patch things up.

Oh no, that's not what W meant. Yeah sure, whatever.

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:48 PM
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5. I love the attempt at portraying it as spontaneous
"The elder Bush dropped by the White House's blue-curtained briefing room in the West Wing...An aide said Bush came in while showing Morse and others in his party the executive mansion."

ROFL- the EX-president just sort of wandered into the WH press briefing room for some off the cuff remarks.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:54 PM
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20. Yes, you are so right!
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:40 PM
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2. s-h-i......t? n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:47 PM
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4. That is exactly what I thought too. heh heh
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:56 PM
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21. Too, funny! n/t
:smoke:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:45 PM
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3. But the USA isn't arrogant.
Why can't we get a president who can speak clearly and concisely and succinctly and say what he means in an understandable fashion? Oh that's right, we do, it's just that what he says is written off as "stupidity" or "he didn't really mean that" or "bushisms".
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:16 AM
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24. Check this;
“The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

—H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:57 AM
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27. Even when democracy isn't perfected -- we get a moron.
Daddy Bush bailing out his son again, eh? But Jr. didn't mean what he said. Give me a fucking break...this was shrub's chance to speak to "his people." He spoke, and told us right where he is going to "lead" us...to war after war after war to spread his idea of freedom and democracy throughout the world.

Do these motherfuckers tell the truth about ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!??????
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 04:39 PM
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33. My point=he does speak the truth, then others rush to excuse it
saying "he didn't really mean it" when he did. I do like the moron in the white house quote.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 05:33 PM
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35. You know every time I see that Mencken quote, I think
WHY THE HELL DID HE HAVE TO WRITE THAT???? I mean, I learned all about self-fulfilling prophecies (except maybe the spelling), and I think it's H.L. Mencken's fault we're in this mess!

At any rate, the office certainly doesn't represent MY inner soul. That office doesn't have a soul.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:49 PM
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6. My ASS he's "out of it"...
you can bet he still gets his CIA briefings as per usual.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:14 PM
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15. Imagine the phone calls that might have been behind
this decision to send out the old man. From Baker? Scowcroft? "George, you have to fix this. I'm getting calls from across the globe. The Saturday round of backpedaling articles didn't take. They'll listen to you. Fix it!"

Maybe he just sprung it on Jr. -This article even makes the point:

The former president visited the briefing room shortly after the current occupant of the White House returned from a mountain bike ride that ended just as heavy snow began falling in Washington.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:59 AM
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28. Big George tells junior..."son, you fucked up again..." n/t
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:44 AM
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30. sho you're right!
he's in the mix, without a doubt.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:50 PM
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7. Daddy Bush, over 80 years old and still fixing up his son's messes
and giving him money for the church offerings.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:51 PM
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8. Other world leaders can speak for themselves.
Our "leader" needs his daddy to speak for him. How humiliating ... for him and for us. :(
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:52 PM
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9. my son is not a zealot meglomaniac monster.
really, he isnt.

papa bush.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:53 PM
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10. Hard to believe he still thinks that anyone else thinks
what Junior says has any meaning or any repercussions. They whole world knows that the US now does whatever it wants within its power. No need to read or ponder anyone's statements.

Poppy is living in a world that no longer exists.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:54 PM
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11. Man they couldn't backpedal faster could they?
No no no that's not what he meant*

*BTW spreading freedom and self rule has been US foreign policy since the end of WWI-Carter added the human rights part.

W can't get agreeing with everyone right either.
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Senator Lamb Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:01 PM
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12. i feel bad
all those people who attended the inagural had to sit through a speech that basically said,"freedom, freedom, freedom, freedom, freedom, freedom, liberty, i love freedom, freedom, freedom,..." for nothing. they arent even going to get a new radical policy. or are they..........
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:08 PM
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13. I was watching C-Span today
where they showed Bush as saying in his first "election" that he had to give off an air of humility so the world would perceive him as humble and respond accordingly. He said if they perceive me as being arrogant they would perceive the U.S. as arrogant.

His goal accomplished. His actions has shown the world perceives us as arrogant.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:11 PM
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14. Apparently everyone who heard the speech
got it wrong.

"No, you only thought it meant something radical. Just because it sounded radical, doesn't mean it is. Although the speech quacked like a duck, it's not really a duck... Walk away, nothing to see here."

My question is this, just because an elder Bush says it isn't so, does it mean the tree still fell from the reviewing stand?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 03:01 AM
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:16 PM
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16. Uh, He says he will save the world and destroy those
who disagree with his neocon policies, and wonders why he could be seen as a Messianic nut with the power of the U.S. military behind him. Four more years of hell.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:32 PM
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17. was there a 2nd speech no one
heard but poppy? That lazy lipped ass pimple delivered the most militaristic speech I have ever heard. no shift???? bushit!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:39 PM
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18. The biggest proof of Election Fraud is such an idiot as * in the WH. n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:49 PM
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19. But his daddy said
he didn't really mean it that way. God, rid us of the Bush's.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:00 AM
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22. They sure came out fast to admit bush was just LYING AGAIN in his speech
Usually they wait until they're FORCED to admit bush was just LYING AGAIN.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 12:15 AM
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23. If Junior didn't mean it, why is Cheney threatening Iran and Rice
bad mouthing Venezuela?

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:15 AM
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25. Didn't he have something like 20+ rough drafts? That's not what he meant?
After 20+ times, I find that one a bit hard to swallow! He meant exactly what he said! "Read into it"...right!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:30 AM
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26. You mean, Bush's father was wrong before he was right
on the message of Bush's speech? God, four more years of Bush hell.
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phasev Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 05:55 AM
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31. read my lips
no new wars!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 11:39 AM
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32. Was this mentioned on any of the morning shows?
It seems like a big deal to have an x-pres answer calculated press questions from inside the WH. If there's no domestic buzz, it would only reinforce the idea that this was meant to soothe the foreign diplomatic arena.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 05:21 PM
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34. It's a personal shift.
Before moving into the White House Li'l George had virtually no interest in the world at all as demonstrated by the fact that he didn't travel despite growing up in a wealthy family. (What a million poor foreign language and international affairs students wouldn't give for such opportunity!) And now old incurious George wants to remake the world in his image because HE KNOWS BEST what's good for everybody! It's not just a shift--it's a born-again transformation! It's the all-new-and-different Li'l George!

:puke:
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 05:43 PM
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36. I don't even want to read this thread......
because I'm sick to death of hearing what that old dinosaur and his bug-eyed wife have to say about anything. The world will be better off when we are rid of these people.
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