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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:00 PM
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Women Being Forced Into Combat
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2151

Doing the job of the media, Elaine Donnelly of the Center for Military Readiness (CMR) broke a significant scoop. Donnelly had obtained information, including official briefing documents, indicating that the Pentagon is moving to force female soldiers into new land combat brigades. If this is because of shortages of male combat soldiers, then the Pentagon is not telling us the truth that the Army has enough troops to win the war in Iraq.

The documents indicate that the Third Infantry Division based at Fort Stewart, Georgia was ignoring a Department of Defense rule exempting female soldiers from support units that "collocate" or mix with land combat troops.


The division is scheduled to deploy to Iraq soon. Donnelly pointed out that the move also violated a law requiring prior notice to Congress over a period of 30 legislative days when both Houses are in session. In addition, CMR emphasized the 2002 Defense Authorization Act also requires an analysis of potential impact of such changes.


Donnelly sounded the alarm because she also saw the potential for the Third Infantry action to affect all land combat units. "Female soldiers should not be forced to participate in deliberate offensive or defensive actions on land, under conditions where they do not have an 'equal opportunity' to survive, or help fellow soldiers survive," said Donnelly.


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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:05 PM
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1. Women have been in combat in all wars men have ever waged
usually in drag as teenagers. If they volunteer for combat, that's fine.

However, wars like Iraq (and Vietnam before it) are different because there is no discernable front, no way to keep anyone behind the lines. All women are in combat there, whether or not they volunteered for it, same as all non combat positions men fill.

This is the future of warfare. With both parents often in the service, and a heartless government that deploys both parents to war zones, get used to seeing orphans again.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:25 PM
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2. I'm sure this will be Bill Clinton's fault too
Well, Ms. Donnelly, you and your neo-con husband can try and blame the "liberals" all you want, but they are out of power, and this is George W. Bush's government.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:33 PM
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3. Elaine Donnelly needs to shut the hell up about what women
can and cannot do.
The male soldiers are forced to "participate".
Women soldiers should be given the same training as men so that they are able to fight side-by-side with their comrades. Women soldiers are no less brave, no less capable and no less soldiers than men.
If she is fighting for equality in training, pay and rank, that's commendable. If she's using women soldiers to make americans feel "sorry" for them, then she's no friend to women.
And by the way, ALL women can fight. If you doubt it, just try to harm a child and see what "mom" is capable of.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:33 PM
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4. Please consider the source
Elaine Donnelly has made a career out of opposing equal rights for women in the military. She is certainly no expert and may end up doing more harm than good. If you want to learn more about this woman, see http://www.seniorwomen.com/articles/freeman/articlesFreemanCPAC.html for more information.

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:06 PM
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6. Thanks for the link. I had no idea who she was before I
read the article. You must be very well informed, my hat's off.
I sure had her pegged right though, didn't I?
I also bookmarked the sight, it's good to know who our enemies are.
:spank:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:06 PM
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5. Was it all of three weeks ago that Bush the Liar said this would never
happen? There flip-flops are so numerous and so fast, they are hard to track.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:12 PM
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7. Hi leftchick,
I am angry at Donnelly, not you. (I hope I didn't get any spittle on you while I was ranting.)
Just don't want a misunderstanding, I'm still a newbie.
:hippie:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:21 PM
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10. I requested a lock to this thread...
I was not aware what a nutjob she is. Perhaps I need to start googling all authors to find the freaks!

No offense taken.

:)
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:18 PM
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8. and here I thought the repukes were for women
remaining in 'traditional roles' yet they are the one's doing the most in getting them out of the house. Guess it is alright to go across the World to kill someone but wrong for a woman to have a success job in the corporate world and be paid a decent amount for doing it...:shrug: :eyes:
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:20 PM
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9. This might liven up the old foxhole.n/t
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:30 PM
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11. You got that right.
And they say women in combat would hurt morale...
HA!

:*
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 07:42 PM
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12. Locking per original poster's request
Not an approved LBN source. Thank you.
DU moderator.
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