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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:24 PM
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IE Continues to Lose Grip on Market

Oh no, they say IE's got to,
go go Mozilla!

Fri Jan 21,10:00 AM ET

Matthew Broersma, Techworld.com

Microsoft's share of the browser market has continued to slide, according to a new study, indicating a continued momentum for users switching to Internet Explorer alternatives.

Between the beginning of December and mid-January, IE's market share dropped 1.5 percent to 90.3 percent, while the Mozilla Project's Firefox browser rose 0.9 percent to a total of 5.0 percent, according to market researcher WebSideStory. Researchers have shown Explorer's market share falling since June, when WebSideStory had its market share at 95.5 percent.

Other browsers, including Opera and Apple Computer's Mac-only Safari, also gained just under 1.0 percent to 2.1 percent, WebSideStory said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&ncid=1093&e=4&u=/pcworld/20050121/tc_pcworld/119369
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mrbassman03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:30 PM
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1. Good riddance!
IE is the most bloated POS I have ever used. Firefox is a bit too unstable for my taste, I am sticking with Safari.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:31 PM
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2. Firefox works fine for me...
Can't use Safari, because I've got a PC.
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mrbassman03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:04 PM
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15. Yeah, it is a good program, but Apple has made Safari a bit better...
To each his own...
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:07 PM
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17. Me, too
A few hiccups here and there. But anything is preferable to using a MS product.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:38 PM
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5. I've never had any problems with Forfox. n/t
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fnottr Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:09 PM
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20. must be the mac build
The windows version has been rock solid stable for me. So has the Linux version when I've used it.
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MeDeMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:10 PM
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21. tried the real FF 1.0 ?
have you tried firefox 1.0 ? not the preview release, the real thing ?

it is VERY stable, I have opened upto a dozen pages in different tabs (clicking on links in DU blogs) and there is no evidence of slow down.

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mrbassman03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:16 PM
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22. Yes, I just like Safari better...
To each his own...
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 01:55 AM
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39. I have Mozilla Best of 2003.
It works fine for me. If you ever need something instead of or in addition to Safari, try Mozilla Best of 2003.
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:32 PM
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3. IE won't be missed
But sadly the damn program is integrated with the OS itself.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:49 PM
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7. True. Sad and true.
Just try deleting IE. Windoze won't let you. :)
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bobweaver Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:36 PM
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4. Hey Apple, are you listening? You released iTunes for PC, why not Safari?
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:39 PM
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6. How can there be a browser "market"
and why does it even matter when browsers are for the most part free?
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:49 PM
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8. i wonder the same thing my self?? nt.
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:55 PM
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10. Most people access the internet via a browser
They are also used to front end a lot of commercial software applications on corporate and government intranets. Even ancient old 3270 IBM mainframe applications can be run through them now days. Believe me controlling this element of the desk top is important.
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MeDeMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:06 PM
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16. it matters for cross platform development
when Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape, Opera, Safari etc gain a marketshare that is in the teens or twenties then websites (in an effort to be cust friendly) will make their content better compatible with multiple browsers.

which in turn means they'll stop using microsoft specific extensions and stick to html standards, which in turn means safer content for windows & IE users.

while people using other browsers can switch operating systems, staying with the same browser, and not notice a difference.

:D sorry for the long winded ans.

-max
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:50 PM
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9. FireFox User Here!
Been using Mozilla for a long time before they came out with FireFox. I am happily using v. 1.0 now.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:56 PM
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11. Safari is very good.
Unfortunately it's mac only.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:00 PM
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12. Try Opera
folks, it's free but has a banner ad. Drive it around for awile. It's worth the 25 bucks, has an e-mail client built in (pop3). Free to try it, I've been using Opera for a few years.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:02 PM
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13. Firefox is good enough.
I use that and IE. I don't like how Firefox loads images.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:04 PM
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14. I love firefox
it's priceless.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 09:15 PM
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33. I like Firefox too.
On my PC, Firefox is faster than IE and more secure too. What's not to like?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:07 PM
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18. Firefox is the best webbrowser I've ever used.
It's fast, easy to use, and seems to use less RAM than IE. It's also stable. Unlike IE, Firefox hasn't crashed on me a single time since I started using it.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:08 PM
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19. Man, nobody mentioned my sly Blue Oyster Cult reference...
I'm so bummed.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:24 PM
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24. Where is it!!!????
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:42 PM
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29. It's at the very top, above the article
I'll put it in italics.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 01:07 AM
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38. think song 'Godzilla'.
you'll get it then.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:43 PM
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40. Ah...should have seen that
Nice one...
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:27 PM
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26. I didn't get it first time 'round,
but once it was pointed out ... I wasn't a big BOC fan, but I still like "Godzilla". Bought the CD because of it.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:19 PM
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23. Mozilla 1.7.2
No worries, mate.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:25 PM
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25. Safari...the only way to browse...
...simple and intuitive. Like most of Apple.

-Paige
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:28 PM
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27. Firefox.
Recommended by Distributed Processing--Europe. IE handles Unicode and their user interface very, very weirdly.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:40 PM
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28. There's another one
Edited on Fri Jan-21-05 06:41 PM by raysr
based on Gecko call "K-Meleon", very much like FF but lighter.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:47 PM
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30. Found this in
"Mozilla afer dark" forums, http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=204548, this is why I don't use FF, too many freepers in the help forums.
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SteveG Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 08:19 PM
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31. Mozilla 1.8a6
The current alpha version is working great for me.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 08:28 PM
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32. Oh, poor wittle micwosoft...only got a wittle 90% market share...



awwww.....poor wittle baby!!
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 11:41 PM
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34. well, duh!
IE has more holes than a swiss-style cheese.

As a fan of the Penguin, I have not used IE for years. I use either Konqueror or Mozilla. Both have their quirks, but I have not had any problems from the web.

Happy Penguin w/Suse 9.0

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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 11:44 PM
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35. If ONLY windoze could follow..! nt
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Cori Cycle Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 12:00 AM
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36. I Like IE
actually. Running Mozilla or Firefox cause more splitting headache than IE. I noticed Mozilla hogs memory like no other web browser. Plug in doesn't work, and installation of whatever extra thing I need require trip to help pages, then posting question on forum. I think a software (like web browser) shouldn't require user to read anything before it does what it supposed to do. Program like web browser should be easy to use like a toaster.

IE is intuitive and works great for me. I like my XP SP2 as well.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 12:06 AM
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37. That's still about 89% too much, IMHO
Edited on Sat Jan-22-05 12:06 AM by 0rganism
Beyond any grudges against M$, no matter how richly deserved, something so pervasive as the browser market needs to be richly diversified and competitive to spread the cracks and exploits around more evenly.

Microsoft's obscene market share isn't just annoying, it's hazardous to users.
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