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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:44 PM
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Bush Vows to End 'Tyranny in Our World' (puke alert)
WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) sought in his second inaugural speech to define his new term as a fight for freedom in every nation with the "ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world." At home, he urged a divided nation to find the unity it had felt after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Looking ahead to history's judgment, Bush asked two questions in his speech Thursday from the Capitol steps: "Did our generation advance the cause of freedom? And did our character bring credit to that cause?"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=703&e=2&u=/ap/20050120/ap_on_go_pr_wh/inaugural_bush_speech
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How can a tyrant in the US end tyranny in the world? That's like a drug kingpin demanding tougher drug laws!
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:45 PM
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1. What a bunch of crap
How can anybody take this stuff seriously anymore?
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:46 PM
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2. Ok, then resign
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:46 PM
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3. So he's going to resign?
Or doesn't US tyranny count?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:48 PM
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4. Message to W resign or be impeached
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:50 PM
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5. does the Saudi Royal Family know about this?
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:01 PM
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30. Does Musharaff know this?
Do the American people know this?
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:50 PM
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6. Does all this remind anyone else of Nazi Germany?
This "ending tyranny around the world" by killing off everyone who doesn't look like YOU?

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:53 PM
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7. Expect the opposite Tyranny from with in the regime.
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:54 PM
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8. Sounds like OJ Simspon
Still looking for the "real" killer when he's really the person in the mirror!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:56 PM
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9. It's official
Bush is a Neo Con, if anybody had any doubts
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:56 PM
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10. And to do that, it is necessary that we live in a police state
The gangsters are in charge and this time there will be no saving the wholesale shredding of our Constitutional liberties.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:57 PM
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11. He took a vow of suicide?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:58 PM
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12. This is just cover propaganda for expanding the American Empire
Fine words have often led to the death of millions.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:00 PM
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13. Does that mean he is resigning?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:02 PM
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14. There's no f-ing way he can do that.
He'd have to perform harakiri to get rid of ALL tyranny.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:03 PM
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15. Bush Vows to End 'Tyranny in Our World? I he resigning? eom
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:05 PM
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16. oh holy shit we're going to invade everyone now
"More work is needed, the president said, to both protect America from future attacks and to advance its ideals in other parts of the world — a mission he said was the 'calling of our time.' "

Yep, it's smelling a bit like 1939 already.

"Bush said America does not want to impose 'our own style of government on the unwilling.'"

Of course. Our various occupational authorities and puppet governments will hardly resemble the dissent-ridden constitutional representative democracy still permitted to exist in the Fatherland. Naturally, other parts of his speech deal with quenching dissent locally...

"'We have known divisions, which must be healed to move forward in great purposes and I will strive in good faith to heal them,' he said, adding that he did not believe the separations defined the nation."

It's not going to be pretty, folks. We've got a serious shitstorm coming down the pipe.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:26 PM
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35.  "adding that he did not believe the separations.....................
defined the nation".
Well, there you have it. What King George BELIEVES to be reality, IS reality; for him anyway. He's another one of that group of people who would rather believe than think.
Believing makes it so. No need to think my way out of this, I BELIEVE! Just as he believes that everything is going fantastically in Iraq. Just as he believes that taking this country into a fiscal downward death spiral will fill the coffers with unbelievable wealth.
History will be the ultimate judge of this tyrant, and I do not BELIEVE it will view him kindly.
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egoprofit Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:31 PM
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38. seriously this is retarded
president bush reminds me of some spoiled little kid who wants his friend's toys. is he serious? will he think before he acts? it's a sad day when you seriously doubt the integrity of your own government!! this is the new america?!
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:08 PM
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17. Ho Hum, it only means this - More War And Death!
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:09 PM
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18. Whom does Bush think he is?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:10 PM
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:19 PM
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20. We're all in favor of the end of tyranny.
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 03:23 PM by spotbird
There isn't anyone here who doesn't wish the United States adopted it as a policy. We just are absolutely certain Bush doesn't give a damn about tyranny since he hasn't done a single thing to work toward its end.

Can I have a sip of your KoolAid?
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:19 PM
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21. War is NEVER the only way.
it can be the last resort.


Take Iraq - please!
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:20 PM
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22. Too bad the US has no credibility on tyranny
Remember the El Salvador death squads? Remember Pinochet in Chile? Remember engineering coups against democracies in Iran and Venezuela? Remember destroying vietnam to save it? Remember bombing Cambodia and then backing the Khmer Rouge? Remember the vicious reppresive monarchy of Saudi Arabia, our good 'friends'?

Remember our own history of slavery, genocide against the Native Americans, and racism?

Sometimes the only way to defeat tyranny is to stop FUNDING and SUPPORTING it!
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:23 PM
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23. We must stop being tyrranical first..
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 03:25 PM by dethl
When you invade a defenseless country in the name of "freedom" you don't kill 15,000+ innocent civilians in the process.

EDIT: fixed grammar
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:29 PM
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24. A Bush war to end all Wars?
Haha, too funny
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:33 PM
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26. ummm let's say those words out of bushs mouth are as credible as...
if Mussolini had uttered them. And replacing a dictatorial regime by a US occupation is hardly a improvement.

But if you insist that killing (thats what war is about) will foster love... tell me what dope you smoke
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:03 PM
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33. I thought republicans said the US shouldn't be the police force...
of the world.

Oh right, that's when Clinton was President. I suppose we'll be invading the dictatorships in Saudi Arabia and China next. Great news!

War does suck, especially when you're in it.

INFANTRY VET
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:56 PM
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57. I remembered hearing that, a LOT. Went to get a link referring to it.
Found this immediately, with something else quite interesting in it. William Colby recommended reducing the Defense budget! This is a transcript from some show:
NARRATOR: William Colby, the respected director of the Central Intelligence Agency during the second Nixon administra-tion, thinks US military spending should be cut significantly.

WILLIAM COLBY: Well, I've been maintaining for some time now that our defense budget could safely and modestly be cut to one-half what it was in the later days of the cold war.

INTERVIEWER: Half of $300 billion?

Mr. COLBY: Yes.
(snip)

Mr. CLARKE: Well, I see the United States as being rather schizophrenic. On the one hand, we see lots of politicians saying we can no longer be the world's policeman; global cop is out. But we still see this huge defense expenditure. We see $250-, $280 billion a year going out for defense. And the only reason that can be justified is if the United States is, in fact, wanting still to be the global cop. It strikes me that there is a schizo-phrenia here and people need to decide which side of the fence they need to come down on.

NARRATOR: Pentagon officials say they don't want America to play the role of world policeman, yet a world policeman-kind-of-military force is exactly the kind of military President Clinton is planning.
(snip/...)
http://www.cdi.org/adm/708/

These people surely didn't seem to think Clinton was shortchanging the military budget, of which he has been accused steadily since Bush assumed the pResidency.

Who could possibly believe these pathetic, congenital liars, after watching them work for a few years? My God.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:37 PM
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39. Incite war on a country that has not attacked us...........
has no WMDs contrary to what our inglorious leader told us? This is not the way to end tyranny. You don't end tyranny by killing thousands upon thousands of their people for no good reason. You don't end tyranny by invading countries and stealing their natural resources.
There is a little known (these days) ploy called Diplomacy. Statesmanship is as foreign to this cement headed jackass as is accountability.
Yes, sometimes war is the only way. But when you attack a sovereign nation that has not attacked you, that is brutish, illegal and arrogant.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:22 PM
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46. the same thing imperial japan said during WWII
with their GEACPS program in AISA.

they promised to bring PEACE, PROSPERITY and SECURITY to the whole region... we're a bit more ambitious apparently.

peace
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:08 PM
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53. ROTFL!!!
I don't think so. :D

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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:35 PM
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56. Many Tyrants are Right Here in the U.S.
You know, the holier-than-thou types who believe (yes, believe! NOT think) we are all beneath them and so they must be the enforcers of "morals". What about them? One reason they haven't acted up like the examples you gave is because they don't have sufficient number. But they are legislating. Maybe they have more patience than Imperial Japan or Nazi Germany.......
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:06 PM
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58. You forgot to name some
Like Columbia, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan etc, the killing fields of East Timor and Indonesia, the tyranny of Romania, the terror bombing of Dresden and Tokyo, the conquest of the Philippines...

Oh wait, they're all US allies, were allies, or are actions carried out by the US. Hence, something you've forgotten.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 08:44 PM
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64. Particularly hard to overlook, Bush's friendship with Uzbekistan's Pres.
Islam Karimov, shown here shaking hands with the man who stole Al Gore's Presidency:



Here's a source showing Bush, Rumsfeld, Powell, Tommy Franks, Douglas Feith, and Victoria Clark all united in cementing relationships with Uzbekistan:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/pol/us-and-uz.htm

Bush's friend, Karimov runs an administration which is so "not soft on crime" he has BOILED prisoners to death.

For anyone who doubts this happened, here's a good long look at the beneficiaries of this bold, firm approach to "terrorists."
To DU'ers who really DON'T want to see tortured victems, don't look at this site. I'm not kidding. If your rage is stronger than your squeamishness, fell free.
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/uzbekistan/tortures.html

You have to wonder just how goddawful a "tyrant" would have to be to summons outrage in Bush's brave, compassionate humanitarian heart.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:12 AM
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67. That was a little bit of a storm
Over here in the UK, when our Ambassador to Tashkent made public his objections to boiling people, torturing people, running sham elections, etc.

Tony Blair (or somebody in his politburo) responded by first trying to mount a smear campaign against him (accusations of sexual harassment and the like), and when that didn't work, had him fired (technically, brought back to shift papers in the Westminister toilets).

Apparently MI6/5, CIA etc (even Mossad) maintain close co-operation with this Saddam-style psycho. No doubt in 15 years we'll have to "defend ourselves" from this tyranny when it stops obeying orders; its not tyranny now, because we're backing it of course.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:22 PM
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59. You're right, and soon it will be the "ONLY WAY" to deal with
Iran.

But don't you worry, there'll be some kind of catalyzing event to roll us into that one - something REALLY neat!

Iran has already started to bend over backwards to comply with non-proliferation rules.

Sure they probably have some enriched uranium somewhere, but even if they turn it over, we'll ask for 'the rest of it'.

Then something terrible will happen to us and we'll say it had something to do with them.

They'll swear upside-down, sideways, backwards, inside-out, and on Allah's balls that they had nothing to do with it.

Then we will show the 'proof' (courtesy of the Office of Special Plans) that they had a hand, or they harbor those that did.
This will be followed by a rain of Massive Ordinance Air Burst bombs on various targets in Iran and subsequent invasion from two fronts.

Oh, and of course there will be a draft instated due to the heinous nature of the 'crime' perpetrated 'by them' 'against us'.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 08:49 PM
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65. How can Bu$h end tyranny? A pretzel kicked his freaking ass.
Bu$h`s grandfather Prescott Bu$h financed Hitler. And Bu$h uses Hitler style propaganda and tactics. And I won`t forget it either. I had friends that died in Vietnam and that was a war crime like Iraq. And was also pursued on a batch of lies. War does suck. But needless war crimes suck even more. And only a lying idiot like Bu$h would think it was the ONLY WAY.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:30 PM
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25. Charity begins at home
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:51 PM
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27. As he says this, riot gear thugs were dragging little lady protesters
away in chains. Up your ass bush, hope a massive heart failure brings some cosmic "tyranny" on you.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:53 PM
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28. That means "total dictatorship."
What fun.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:57 PM
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29. What a pompous ass.
He's just so full of himself.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:01 PM
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31. Interesting that he has suddenly changed the focus from "terrorists"
to "tyrants."

What the hell happened to all the turrists? Did the tyrants eat them?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:02 PM
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32. A humble man
He's off to a pretty piss-poor start.
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theresistance Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:14 PM
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34. The first step would be for some regime change
in the White House
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:27 PM
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36. "The Ultimate Goal of Ending Tyranny in Our World"
Doublespeak for "4 more years! 4 more wars!"
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:30 PM
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37. My thought exactly! If he ends Tyranny, he'd have to depose himself!
n/t :crazy:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:42 PM
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40. This is the new WORD, peeps!
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 04:43 PM by MADem
Anyone remember AXIS of EVIL? The "T" word is replacing it. If you watched Condi's apologia before the Senate committee, she used the expression "OUTPOSTS OF TYRANNY" in her nonsensical statement to the members.

Alas, this means the definition of TYRANNY will have to be changed in dictionaries all over the world to mean any actions by any nation or entity that the weecowboy and his crew does not like....

Edit: typo
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:45 PM
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41. Dick Durbin, Sen, Dem, IL on cpan now agreeing with Bush and "freedoms"
He thought the speech was great.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:53 PM
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42. Have they put him on suicide watch? nt
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 04:54 PM
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43. Hooray! The Chimperor announces his abdication!
...oh, he didn't?

Fuck.

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Logiola Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:01 PM
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44. he will replace tyranny with
American Hegemony
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MockSwede Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:13 PM
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45. End it now....
* to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge. Holding hands with 'girlie man' Shitzenholenfucker!
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:36 PM
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47. I've run out of outrage
He's talking in code to his cult. That's about all it amounts to. The whole world is onto him. I just wonder if Bush realizes what deep sh*t he's in. Doesn't appear to.

It's all too weird.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:40 PM
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48. Mcdonalds vows to make the world safer for cows
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 05:43 PM by superconnected
by installing electric fences that don't zap continuously.
...same difference.
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michael_1166 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:44 PM
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49. If Bush
wants to be at the forefront of ending tyranny in this world he should resign immediately and ask for psychotherapeutic help.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:47 PM
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50. what it comes down to is he means just he opposite
He just said he's going to attempt world domination.

Interpreting it the other way is a democratic, not a republican interpretation. He's speaking repug.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:29 PM
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61. World domination
is exactly what I got out of that speech.
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V Lee Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:58 PM
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51. So that means the neo-cons are going to be kicked out ...
... on their Imperialist asses?

So, he's going to end tyranny by spreading US tyranny?

I get it, it's like "saving" the forests by cutting down all the trees, or "freeing" Iraqis by killing them, or "preserving" our freedoms by taking them away, or "defending" America by putting the country in more danger! Yea! Now I get it!
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:08 PM
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52. FU *!...the nation will continue to be divided under your sorry a$$.
I will never unite under that POS even if I'm standing here in a pile of rubble of what used to be the USA.

Go ahead and plan another domestic attack, hopefully they will get sloppy and get caught red-handed.
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:09 PM
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54. I guess that means Saudi Arabia and China are next!
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:31 PM
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55. That is Just Code Words for
"We are gonna practice redneck mantra and invade a whole bunch more other countries til we occupy most of the world."

F*** you, chickenhawks!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:28 PM
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60. He can end tyranny by swallowing a pistol.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:51 PM
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62. they're going to call it the Healthy World Initative
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 07:57 PM by superconnected
The increase in tax dollars for social security is going to fund it.

the plan is to keep haliburtin, carlyle and all their defense subsidairys busy for the next 4 years. Don't worry, it will trickle down to the the average people, and even the extremely poor in foreign countries. They can sell motar shells...

The only thing left to do is invest in defense. Ooops, can't ...my morals won't let me.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 08:20 PM
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63. The most fascistic rally I have ever seen in the US
That catalogue of lies and calls to bring our freedom-storm to every corner of the world was openly fascistic. Anybody who is a student of fascism would be appalled to hear that speech.
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exploited Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:14 PM
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66. tyr·an·ny
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 11:16 PM by exploited
tyr·an·ny
n.

3. Absolute power, especially when exercised unjustly or cruelly: “I have sworn... eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man” (Thomas Jefferson).

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=tyranny
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:47 PM
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68. uh-oh
"How can a tyrant in the US end tyranny in the world? That's like a drug kingpin demanding tougher drug laws!"

They succeeded fabulously in redefining "Liberal". Here we may be seeing the beginning of a redefinition of "Democracy".

Creepy.
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