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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 06:01 AM
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Mexico offers to help end Colombia, Venezuela rift
Mexico offers to help end Colombia, Venezuela rift
19 Jan 2005 02:07:01 GMT

Source: Reuters

MEXICO CITY, Jan 18 (Reuters) - Mexico offered on Tuesday to help Colombia and Venezuela overcome a deep diplomatic rift over charges that Caracas sheltered a top Colombian leftist guerrilla.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has recalled his envoy from Bogota, suspended bilateral deals and demanded an apology from Colombia for its accusations that Venezuela protected Rodrigo Granda, a leader of Colombia's Marxist FARC rebels.

Venezuela says Granda was illegally kidnapped from Caracas in December by Venezuelan soldiers paid by Colombian police.

"Mexico offers its good offices to contribute to finding diplomatic formulas that favor the re-establishment of the traditionally harmonious relations between Colombia and Venezuela," the Mexican Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
(snip/...)

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N18280032.htm



Chavez + Bush, Chavez + Uribe, Chavez + Fox
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 06:18 AM
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1. This is very troubling...I see the White House all over this
like a bum on a sandwich...:wtf:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 06:47 AM
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2. Remember that stop over
on the way back from Chile. Bingo - get that oil by any means necessary.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:15 AM
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3. I Don't Think Vincente Fox is Doing Bush's Bidding Any Longer
at least not here. Hopefully, this is progress.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:24 AM
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4. We seem to have a disinformation campaign against Chavez in progress.
Venezuela is all over the news all of a sudden, and the same old
propaganda cliches are being trotted out for another try.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:48 AM
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5. Outstanding Move by Mexico and Latin America....
Latin American (Spanish speaking countries) are all united in culture, music, arts, language and the need to have the US as their god father. Today Latin American countries are looking beyond Washington and the US to help uplift their economies and lift their people from poverty. The US has failed Latin America. Basta! The US will now have to deal with a united Latin American front, and they will be powerful. The US will no longer get away with patting Latin American leaders on the head, treating them like little boys.

Latin American Leaders will grow some big cohones and will tell Washington leaders to Chinga tu Madre.
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Bono71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 02:38 PM
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14. Huh? Do you think Fox is going to tell the US what to do
given the amount of remittances illegal and legal Mexican aliens send back to that country? Fox's hands are tied until the Mexican economy vastly improves.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:07 PM
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6. I advise Chavez to' "trust" but verify.'
God forbid that the folks living below us should mend fences and control their own countries. We can't have these little "brown" people doing that. We must have control over Venezuela's oil. That's final! You know Chavez has WMDs and we must overthrow him for our own national security.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:37 PM
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7. Lula da Silva has come forward, as well, to help mediate.
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 01:40 PM by Judi Lynn
Posted on Wed, Jan. 19, 2005




VENEZUELA-COLOMBIA TENSIONS


Venezuela: Brazil's offer `welcome'

Mediation by Brazil to cool the dispute between Colombia and Venezuela would be acceptable, Venezuela's foreign minister said.

By STEVEN DUDLEY
sdudley@herald.com


CARACAS - Foreign Minister Ali Rodríguez said Tuesday that Venezuela would accept any Brazilian offer of mediation to end a bitter row with Colombia over the capture of a leftist Colombian guerrilla leader in Caracas.

''Anything the good friends of Colombia and Venezuela can do to get through situations like the one we face will be welcome,'' Rodríguez said.

Rodríguez was commenting on media reports that Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva would be willing to help the two countries work out the crisis that has led to a freeze in commercial and diplomatic relations.

Lula is scheduled to meet soon with Colombian President Alvaro Uribe.
(snip/...)

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/10677013.htm
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Full speed ahead to these people, and god bless them. They surely deserve all the time in the world to establish their own cooperative association WITHOUT our fools sticking in their murdering, gnarly noses.

"Our" Latin America policy team:




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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:38 PM
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8. Sorry, I have no choice. I've got to post this item I just found.
I know it doesn't fit in, but how else will I get people to see it?

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 02:36 PM
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13. Is that Kirchner whispering on Lula's ear?
He rocks too.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 02:42 PM
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15. Yep, sure is. You're right there!
It took getting him elected President to finally get something done about the U.S.-backed Dirty War in Argentina illuminated, since he was actually a torture victem there, himself.

He's very cool, absolutely. Bush has tried to shove him around, but it hasn't worked so far.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:42 PM
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9. I read this as a further marginalization of US influence...
and the rest of the world working to isolate the US and form their own alliances without the US.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 02:19 PM
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12. That was exactly my reading. bush and the US sink further and
further into irrelevancy.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 02:53 PM
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16. That poster's so right!
Bush has made a vicious joke of our country. It will take centuries to overcome the damage he has done.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 02:02 PM
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10. Fox does everything but fix his own country.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 02:10 PM
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11. Mexico calls on OAS to step in to Colombia-Venezuela dispute, gets support
Mexico calls on OAS to step in to Colombia-Venezuela dispute, gets support from Canada for leadership post

By E. Eduardo Castillo
ASSOCIATED PRESS
6:17 p.m. January 17, 2005

MEXICO CITY – Mexican Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez suggested on Monday that the Organization of American States and the Andean nations should make an attempt to smooth over the diplomatic spat that erupted last week between Colombia and Venezuela.

Derbez, who has announced his candidacy for the OAS leadership post vacated by former Costa Rican President Miguel Angel Rodriguez, spoke at a press conference with Canadian Foreign Minister Pierre Pettigrew, who announced his support for the Derbez candidacy.
(snip)

Also Monday, Assistant Foreign Secretary Patricia Olamendi said Mexico should discuss the possibility of serving on peacekeeping missions, a step that would break with decades of strict noninterventionist philosophy.

"We are members of the United Nations and we have to contribute to building peace," Olamendi said.

"I would call on Congress and Mexican society in general to discuss a more active role for Mexico," she said.
(snip/...)

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/20050117-1817-mexico-foreignpolicy.html

(Not sure how this adds up, especially if the Bush regime is working behind the scenes to prompt this departure from Mexican tradition. It seems Fox has appeared to be trying steadily to distance himself from Bush but it could be an illusion, of course.)

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