U.S. general says there are indications insurgents are receiving support f

[leftchick]

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/015/world/U_S_general_says_there_are_ind:.shtml

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) The U.S. general responsible for security in northern Iraq said Saturday there were indications that insurgents were receiving support from Iraqis who fled to neighboring Syria after the collapse of Saddam Hussein's rule.

''There are some indications, clearly, that the insurgency is receiving some support from former regime forces that are based in Syria,'' Brig. Gen. Carter Ham, commander of Task Force Olympia, told reporters in Baghdad.

Iraqi officials also have complained that the Syrians have not cracked down on Iraqis who support the insurgency from Syrian soil.

Syria has shrugged off complaints, saying it was being made a scapegoat for U.S. failure to stop the uprising in Iraq.

Ham's command includes the insurgent hotspot of Mosul, Iraq's third-largest city. The general said the proximity of Mosul to the Syrian border makes security in the city ''a little more problematic.''

[NNN0LHI]

1. Is this the same general who kept saying the WMDs are right over there? nt

[justiceischeap]

2. Is he setting the stage for an invasion of Syria? n/t

[Claire Beth]

13. sure sounds that way

and taking Syria would be the easiest way for them to route the oil they so much love.

[mediaman007]

3. Like Iraq's problems should concern Syria...

The rest of the World has to worry about its own problems: food, shelter, education and health care. Syria has to guard its borders so terrorists don't get in. I doubt that legally any country can hold them accountable for who gets out.

[neweurope]

4. Sure, bomb Syria. We know it's coming, don't we?

Also they need an explanation for this cakewalk getting a bit lengthy.


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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[mutus_frutex]

12. Not without a draft...

They might be able to bomb Syria, but no chance of any ground deployement there. At least not without a draft.. :-S

[neweurope]

18. Well... concerning Iran they already SAID they didn't plan on ground

deployment...


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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[Just Me]

5. Another facet of fascism: ID enemies/scapegoats.

Avoid personal responsibility for creating chaos, mass destruction and profiteering off public wealth by creating many enemies/scapegoats.

And, yes, Syria is on the PNAC list.

[Whoa_Nelly]

6. Sure wish the media would stop using the term "insurgents"

Until the Dems stop allowing the Repubs to frame the language, there will be no changes in the US news that so many Americans have come to believe are the ONLY news sources for credibility. As an example, the Repubs started the media whores using and abusing the term "insurgents". If you look up that word it DOES NOT apply to what is happening in Iraq; the words "resistence fighters" would be more applicable. There is no government beyond the puppet government installed by the Bush regime, thus "insurgent" is the completely incorrect term. Yet, even Franken on Air America uses the term "insurgents".
The latest diatribe the Repubs are trying to sneak in to frame the general American belief in US media whore media is that the Dem party is a party of the past.

There are many other Repub media blitz terms and phrases that are now part of the US media whore vernacular. So, until the Dems become adamant in not allowing the Repubs to frame the general US media terms, and go on the offensive rather than rebutting on the defensive using the Repub-termed words/phrases, the uphill climb to begin moving the US away from the fascist state the Repubs and Dems are allowing the Bush/Rove cabal to their climb for ulimate and sick power grabs.

Just MHO :tinfoilhat:

insurgent:
Main Entry: <1>in·sur·gent
Pronunciation: -j&nt
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin insurgent-, insurgens, present participle of insurgere to rise up, from in- + surgere to rise —more at SURGE
Date: 1765
1 : a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent
2 : one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one's own political party

[HawkerHurricane]

8. Shall we call them Guerrillas?

Which is what they are, in part.

[NNN0LHI]

9. "Iraqis" does it for me

After all, thats what they are.

Don

[barb162]

14. I think some are out-of-towners too

[PurityOfEssence]

24. Care to back that up?

Among the many theories advanced to justify our holding the Islamists at arm's length is that many of the ingrates who're fighting us in Iraq aren't locals. This has been repeatedly shown to be false. There were surprisingly few furriners in Falluja.

While the powers that be continually make pronouncements about Dead Enders, foreigners and such, they can't hide the reality that they don't know who the fuck they're fighting. Do you know something the rest of us don't know?

[leftchick]

27. about those phantom foreign fighters in Fallujah....

http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=8737

~snip~

I counted the graves: there were 74. The two young men made it 76. The names on the headstones were written in chalk and some had been washed away. One read: "Here lies the heroic Tunisian martyr who died", but I didn't see any other evidence of the hundreds of foreign fighters that the US had said were using Falluja as their headquarters. People told me there were some Yemenis and Saudis, some volunteers from Tunisia and Egypt, but most of the fighters were Fallujan. The US military say they have hundreds of bodies frozen in a potato chip factory 5km south of the city, but nobody has been allowed to go there in the past two months, including the Red Crescent.

Salman Hashim was crying beside the grave of his son, who had been a fighter in Falluja.

"He is 18 years old. He wanted to be a doctor or engineer after this year; it was his last year in high school." At the same grave, the boy's mother was crying and remembering her dead son, who was called Ahmed. "I blame Ayad Allawi. If I could I would cut his throat into pieces." Then, to the mound of earth covering her son's body, she said: "I told you those fighters would get you killed." The boy's father told her to be quiet in front of the camera.

On the next grave was written the name of a woman called Harbyah. She had refused to leave the city for the camps with her family. One of her relatives was standing by her grave. He said that he found her dead in her bed with at least 20 bullets in her body.

I saw other rotting bodies that showed no signs of being fighters. In one house in the market there were four bodies inside the guest room. One of the bodies had its chest and part of its stomach opened, as if the dogs had been eating it. The wrists were missing, the flesh of the arm was missing, and parts of the legs.

[barb162]

29. Actually, Rummie stopped using "dead-ender" and

other comments as the attacks grew over time.

here's from an old "AlJazeera" article:


Saudi fighters 'join resistance' in Iraq
By Shaista Aziz

Wednesday 29 October 2003, 11:45 Makka Time, 8:45 GMT


Mujahidin fighters are launching attacks in Iraq


A leading Saudi dissident says thousands of fighters from the kingdom are embroiled in attacks against American occupation soldiers in Iraq.


Dr Muhammad al-Massari, a political activist living in exile in London, has told Aljazeera.net that resistance attacks in Iraq will continue to escalate in Baghdad.

''There are around 5000 mujahidin fighters from Saudi Arabia in Baghdad, and many others joining them from all over the Muslim and Arab world.

"These men have already stepped up their efforts to kick out the American imperialists from Iraq, but what we are seeing is the tip of the iceberg,'' he said
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And the fact is no one does know how many non-Iraqis are fighting in Iraq. I purposely chose an old (2003) article as I have been seeing these articles for many months

[Just Me]

15. They are an Iraqi resistence against foreign occupation.

They don't want the U.S. occupying and controlling their country.

[bemildred]

7. No shit, what a moron.

I'll be he wants to bomb Cambodia Syria so we can "turn the corner".

[TexasLawyer]

10. They ran the "let's attack Iran now" flag

up the flagpole and not enough people saluted. (Also, Halliburton just got a huge shakedown oil deal with Iran, so that helped Bushco feel a little better about the nuclear dangers posed by the "power-mad Iranian theocracy").

Now it is the "let's attack Syria" flag. As if Iraq is not bad enough. This is truly war without end.

[NNN0LHI]

11. Psst. Syria ain't got no oil. They import oil. Chimpy ain't going there nt

[havocmom]

19. Look at a map and envision a pipeling which would bypass the Persian Gulf

and all that possible interference from Iran.

Oil is not the only asset. Routes to carry oil are important to oily bastards too.

[NNN0LHI]

26. Where is Bush going to get more pipeline guards?

With all the pipeline guards in Iraq now there is no oil flowing through those pipelines. If Bush can't defend Iraq's pipelines why would someone invest billions to build another pipeline that will be getting blown up just as often as Iraq's are?

Don

[NYC]

25. Permawar.

My term for the war without end is "permawar".

[War Pigs]

16. Sell them shares of Halliburton. That's what all free people want

:puke:

[Cocoa]

17. the same story that reported the "Salvador option"

also reported plans to send U.S. special forces into Syria, to which Rumsfeld issued a non-denial denial.

[mulethree]

20. he complains because he's not doing his job?

He's in charge of security but blames his own lax border security for his internal security problems?

Yes Iraq has huge borders that would take another army to secure. So fess up, you have been given an impossible job.

[sweetheart]

21. lips are moving... LIES

The american military and government are talking? LIES LIES LIES LIES

[theresistance]

22. Imaginary headline: "Soviet general says there are indications

the Afghan insurgency is being supported from Pakistan with American help". Conclusion= US are hypocrites.

[slor]

23. Someone should tell him that at least...

they are getting support, as opposed to NOT getting it, like our kids and proper armor.

[nickine9]

28. so Iraqis who fled from an invasion

by foreign powers with overwhelming military force are now fighting to get their country back. if i had been a conscript in saddam's army, i would not have waited around to see how the invaders were going to treat me and I would probably try to return and fight for a saddam and coalition free homeland.