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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:46 PM
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Woman Sues Gene Simmons Over VH1 Sex Talk


" Georgeann Walsh Ward, 53, of Chester, N.Y., says in court papers that a photo of her appeared 11 times during the report on KISS, shown on the network several times in July and August, while Simmons claimed to have had sexual encounters with 4,600 women.

In the documentary, "When KISS Ruled The World," Simmons commented that "there wasn't a girl that was off limits, and I enjoyed every one of them," court papers say"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=9&u=/ap/20050109/ap_on_en_mu/people_simmons


30 Thirty years ago this happened and now she is ashamed of her past....Sometimes ya just gotta watch who you hang with.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:49 PM
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1. Um bullshit..she has every right to sue him for displaying her image
in that manner...the truth is always a defense...if Simmons portrayal of her is correct, she will lose..if not..HE IS THE PUBLIC citizen..not her and unless the program got signed releases from her for airing her pic..she will probably win. That's the moral of the story of careless tabloid journalism.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:49 PM
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2. If they used a photo of her without her permission...
it would seem she has a case against the producers and VH1.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:57 PM
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3. Gene Simmons is an idiot.
n/t
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:06 PM
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38. And a Repuke. n/t
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:25 PM
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39. Like I said, he's an idiot.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:59 PM
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4. hell, she should be proud!! like the woman in that 'Family Guy" episode
j/k....great episode, though
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:02 PM
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5. Like I'd ever remember
who I boinked thirty years ago ..............

:hippie:

Those were the days .......

:party:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:11 PM
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7. Somehow I think you'd remember it if you
boinked Gene Simmons.

:evilgrin:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:46 PM
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11. Are you kidding?
Even back then, do you know how drunk/stoned/comatose I'd have had to have been to boink that guy?

I mean, hey, I had standards.

I don't remember what they were, but I'm pretty sure Gene Simmons didn't meet any of whatever criteria existed.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:11 PM
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8. Well, that's pretty ugly
and sure as hell sounds plenty misogynist to me -- your sex partners were just nameless, faceless sex objects you cared nothing about, not even enough to remember their names, if you even knew their names I guess.

:puke:

Pretty disgusting, actually.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:31 PM
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9. Don't worry Eloriel....
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 03:31 PM by tx_dem41
they probably don't remember OldLeftieLawyer either. :-)
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:48 PM
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14. I should think not
I mean, fair's fair, right?

(My goodness, you people sure do get het up about a little action, don't you? I don't think that's good for you, really.)
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:50 PM
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16. My response only was for levity's sake, OLL. Nothing more intended.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:53 PM
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22. Mine, too.
But, you'll always be "Oh, baby, baby" to me.

:)
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:47 PM
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12. Like I said,
those were the days.

I knew their names.

"Honey."

"Baby."

"Oh, baby."

"Sweetie."

See?
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underthedome Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:47 PM
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13. Oh the Humanity!
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 03:52 PM by underthedome
My gosh you mean when this person was younger they would party, get drunk, and hook up with some people that they don't remember now, how horrid!

Oh and as far that person being misogynic, it was a female who posted those comments, you sound pretty sexist to me.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:49 PM
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15. I know
I'm so terribly ashamed. Really.

So, underthedome, you new in town?
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underthedome Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:51 PM
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17. Being lurking for quite some time...
just haven't posted all that much :)
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:52 PM
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20. Welcome
And I think you picked a nice one to jump into.

Anyway, welcome home, underthedome.
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underthedome Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:09 PM
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29. Thanks! n/t
n/t
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:52 PM
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19. Well...I guess you could be a female...
and still be a misogynist....OldLeftieLawyer, you are a really confused individual. ;)
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:55 PM
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23. I am?
But I just showed you the light and you still ascribe misogyny to me, even though you don't know me?

You're het up. I'll let you go now.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:57 PM
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24. Please, notice the "wink" at the end of my post.
Not "het up" here. Just trying to enjoy the rest of my weekend.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:01 PM
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26. Duly noted
Enjoy, "baby, baby" - enjoy.

:)
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:51 PM
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18. Get it right, Baby
I'm hardly a misogynist. Hating my sisters? Not likely.

You meant "misanthrope."

See what getting all het up does to your vocabulary?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:06 PM
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27. This is hilarious
Hey, Eloriel, did you know that GIRLS CAN BE LAWYERS????

It's really quite primitive and sexist to assume a lawyer is always a man, don't you think?
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baba Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:12 PM
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32. "Women" can be lawyers.
"Girls" can pretend to be lawyers, but since a girl is under the age of 18 by definition....

:D

It's just one of my pet peeves when males and females are referred to as "men" and "girls" respectively.

Of course, you may have been being facetious with your language...
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:32 PM
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33. Honey -
I'm closing in on senior citizenhood. I went to law school when Affirmative Action forced the schools to admit women in groups the same size as men. I endured being called "lawyerette" when called on by male law professors who didn't approve of "lady lawyers," and I raised two daughters.

I am here to tell you that females of all ages - if they're lucky - are always "girls."

It's all about the acts, not the words, but I do understand pet peeves.

Boys can be lawyers, too, you know.

;)
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:37 PM
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34. "Lawyerette"?
Somebody find me the barf bag!
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:04 PM
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37. And,
we smiled and recited, because we wanted what they had.

Then, we got it.

Then, we went out into the world and changed everything.

But, we never let them get to us. Our first lesson in becoming good lawyers.
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baba Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:29 AM
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42. Sorry you were called lawyerette!
That is crazy!

Just to clarify: I have no problem with women being called girls, just when "men" and "girls" are used together to refer to adult men and women. I have no problem with "girls" as long as "boys" is used also in the same context!

I believe words are important-language reflects morals and attitudes, no matter how subtle.
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baba Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:35 AM
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43. Also...thanks.
Thank you for forging the path, so to speak. It bothers me that a lot of women in their 20's and 30's now totally take these gains for granted. It is important to acknowledge that our ability to choose careers that were not open to women before didn't come without a fight.

:)
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:03 PM
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6. WHOAAAA
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 03:06 PM by Eloriel
Did she SAY she was ashamed of her past, or is this about protecting her privacy?

I'm not ashamed of anyone I've slept with, but that doesn't mean I would appreciate having my name and face plastered all over some TV channel in conjunction with a single one of them.

It bothers me that you somehow see sleeping with someone -- even someone famous -- equivalent to giving up one's privacy. ]

Edited to add: Yes, invasion of privacy:

Ward's lawsuit, filed Thursday, asks for unspecified damages from Simmons and from Viacom, VH-1's parent company, for alleged defamation and invasion of privacy.

AND, if anyone's interested, he wasn't famous when they were first involved.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:37 PM
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10. and he's a has been now who just wanted a few bucks from VH1
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 03:39 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
Her lawsuit will be pretty easy too since I doubt he can prove he slept with 4600 women...thereby sullying her image while lying about material facts that sullied her image
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:49 PM
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45. I read
that he kept copious notes on everyone he slept with....filmed a lot of them too
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:53 PM
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21. I agree with you, I don't remember half of anything 25 years ago but
I wouldn't appreciate having my pic plastered all over the TV. They should have gotten a disclaimer from her.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:58 PM
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25. Oh, BOO-HOO
I bet when she made the beast with 2 backs with that dude she told LOTS of people...

This is BS, someone looking for money.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:39 PM
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35. So she doesn't have an expectation of privacy?
It's okay for VH1 and Simmons to use her image without her permission?
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:07 PM
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28. "My wife DID KISS!"
"SWEET!"
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:18 AM
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40. "My mom gave Gene Simmons head!"
Yeah, those kids will have grand time at school.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:10 PM
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30. she should be suing VH-1 and not Simmons
he didn't produce the program.

They used the pictures without making sure they had clearances... if they didn't have clearances, they should have done a mosaic fx on her face when the shot was used.

The producer/writer of the piece let it go. The editor let it go. The director doing the online mix-down let it go. The person in charge of clearances let it go. The executive producer let it go. The legal department let it go. Nothing gets to air on those programs without lots of people reviewing it before it gets to air.

Gene Simmons can talk about sleeping with the whole world, but if he's not the one directly putting the tape to air, he's pretty much free and clear on this. But something tells me she signed something and doesn't remember signing it... 20 years ago.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:15 PM
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31. Another good Republican.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:47 PM
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36. The ladies go crazy for that tongue of his...
If you catch my drift.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:26 AM
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:49 AM
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44. Yeah, right...
4600 women?

That's one a day for twelve and a half years.

Sure, Gene, sure.

Redstone
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