New North Korean Missile Could Hit Anywhere in U.S.

[Snellius]

Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) -- North Korea has been using Russian technology to develop a ballistic missile that theoretically could strike anywhere in the U.S., the Associated Press reported, citing an unidentified Bush administration official.

The potential range of the missile is 9,400 miles, AP said, citing the unidentified official. The distance between Pyongyang, the North Korean capital, and San Francisco is about 5,500 miles, AP reported.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=a5tbpC0zAEPE&refer=home

"unidentified Bush administration official"?

[Minstrel Boy]

1. Exactly:

unidentified Bush administration official is key. So we know it's not true.

I guess "missile could hit Guam" didn't sell.

[hang a left]

4. lying stinky smelly BS

[salin]

43. 10:1 = neo con John Bolten

He has been trying to sabatoge all diplomatic efforts, and seems to be trying to provoke some kind of action from NKorea in order to give the US a reason to take military action without International support.

[hadrons]

2. can't speak for the Bush administration official numb-nut, but

North Korea has some of the most sophisticated weapon delievery systems in the world ... these are guys I don't think shit-head would fuck with

[timber]

38. Another misquote

"North Korea has some of the most sophisticated weapon delievery systems in the world ... these are guys I don't think shit-head would fuck with" That North Korea has ever had, not in the world.

[Name removed]

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[gratuitous]

40. Yeah, blame klinton

After all, it was Lil George who delivered a spy plane, intact and with full crew, to the Chinese. Then apologized to them. Then had to enlist the Russians to retrieve the pieces because the Chinese told him to go fly a kite after his grovelling little apology.

I notice your post count is going down, timber. It's been real, it's been nice, but it hasn't been real nice to have you around. Try again some other handle, moran.

[timber]

42. ROFL, I know, you can't handle the truth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, the truth will set you free, you should try it sometime.

[salin]

44. And what do you think of Rumsfeld - selling Nuclear energy equipment

to North Korea? Was on the Board of ABB when they were selling to NKorea. Its well documented. Experts also document that nuclear energy only becomes economically viable (because it is costly) if the waste produced is used again... for... nuclear weapons. Thus, Rumsfeld our great defense leader, cared more about personal profit than national security.

Of course, our Vice President did the same thing as CEO of Halliburton. Except that his company successfully evaded US law to do so - setting up a subsidiary to sell Oil infrastructure equipment to Iraq (Halliburton did the biggest business with Iraq in this arena of ANY company) while there were sanctions preventing US companies from doing business with Iraq. End result was enabling Saddam to get oil back on line and enrich their coffers. IF one believes the Bushco. line about Iraq acquiring WMD - then one has to acknowledge that Halliburton provided a major avenue for Iraq to raise the $ to pursue this. Surprise, surprise, another bush administration leader who in private business put $$$$$$ ahead of U.S. National Security.

[underpants]

41. Uh Ronnie and Ollie started giving secrets to the Chinese

Einstein

[MrBenchley]

3. And they've test fired this missile

built the bunkers, tracking systems, etc., without the entire rest of the world noticing...ho kay....

[DannyRed]

6. Actually...

parts of the last missile they shot off landed in Alaska...

[NNN0LHI]

8. Have you ever seen a photo of it? Neither have I n/t

[Media_Lies_Daily]

14. Do you have a link that supports your claim?

[NNN0LHI]

16. All the claims are based on one unsubstantiated report from South Korea

The story is crap.

http://www.adn.com/front/story/2719687p-2767626c.html

Newspaper says N. Korean missile pieces found in Alaska

Officials puzzled, say closest one splashed down hundreds of miles off coast

An unsubstantiated report from South Korea on Tuesday, claiming fragments of a North Korea missile warhead had been found in Alaska, left state, federal and military officials here puzzled.

The Korea Times, a major Korean newspaper, said a delegation from South Korea's National Assembly had released a new report on the region's current showdown over nuclear weapons and missiles. The newspaper quoted a former Japanese foreign minister's words in the report that "the last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska."

The Japanese official, Tara Nakayama, cited a U.S. document as his source.

Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, said Tuesday he's never heard of such a thing. Neither had Chris Nelson, the state's missile defense coordinator.

Air Force Lt. Col. Rick Lehner, spokesman for the Missile Defense Agency, said the report probably referred to a three-stage missile tested by North Korea in 1998.

"It splashed in the water hundreds of miles from Alaska," Lehner said. "I've never heard of any piece of a missile landing in Alaska from that test or any other test."

more

[DannyRed]

22. The story is not really as crap as we might hope...

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/missile/

Indicates that the TD-1, TD-2, and TD-3 missile systems have the capacity and may now, or soon, have the capability to do exactly that.

Given the deplorable state of our intelligence services, and the even more deplorable staet of our media and the abysmal record of our administration/government honesty...

I would not write it off as yet...

[NNN0LHI]

24. Did you read your own link? - "based on mathematical models" - Its crap

>>>Many of the ranges suggested for the yet-to-fly missile systems are based on mathematical models relying on what little data has been made public. The large ranges suggested by some of these studies do not necessarily imply likely ranges for an armed missile in the near future, rather they often attempt to extrapolate a maximum possible range for a given design, so as to come up with a worst-case scenario.<<<

[DannyRed]

26. It certainly could be...

But remember, NKorea is nowhere near as "backward" as everyone wants to think, especially when it comes to their military.

They have lots of business connections with China and Japan, including a large sector of ex-pats who live here in Tokyo.

Given that asian tech and missile/guidance/gps/fuels/ballistics technology is really quite good, and given the incredible degree of industrial/military espionage that goes on every day, I would not be so dismissive...

That's my only point.

[Art_from_Ark]

28. The North Korean military is extremely backward

Have you not been keeping up with their little excursions into South Korean and Japanese territorial waters? They are a joke. Their "warships" are vintage WWII rustbuckets. They are keeping up this charade to keep from being invaded. And the other side is playing along to keep up the fear factor and sell Japan some nice, expensive (140 billion yen) military technology in the process.

If I lived on the Sea of Japan side, I might fear North Korea, because that is where all the Japanese kidnap victims have been abducted.

[teryang]

32. I'm with you Art

The Bukhan armed forces are a joke. This is the typical fear mongering the propaganda machine puts out.

[Art_from_Ark]

45. You said it

Before I came to Japan, I had the impression (wonder where I got that from?) of North Korea as being a formidable fighting machine, and, no doubt, back in 1950-53 they were (would love to hear from one-eighty on this). But after I came to Japan and started to see and read their newscasts about confrontations between North Korea and SK/Japan, it seemed to me that NK was like the rogue motorcyclist who revs his engine incessantly and speeds aimlessly through the streets as the cops give chase.

[ozone_man]

46. And to provide justification for building an ABM site in Alaska.

Outside of Fairbanks (Delta Junction).

[Art_from_Ark]

27. Actually, the last missile they shot off landed about 100 miles

off the coast of North Korea!

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20030311a1.htm

[punpirate]

34. That item was planted in the press...

... there was never any follow-up nor opportunity for examination of evidence.

More warmongering.

Cheers.

[NNN0LHI]

5. And Iraq had drones capable of dropping WMD's on all of us...

...according to an unidentified Bush administration official too. Boo!

Don

Edit. Oops. Almost forgot. And all within 45 minutes.

[Jim Sagle]

7. And don't forget the mushroom cloud.

[LastDemInIdaho]

9. Ok, but would they trade one US city for an island of glass?

I doubt it.

[fabius]

10. Actually N Korea really does have Nukes...

...and is developing a three stage missile. And has been doing this while Smirk has been chasing nonexistent WMD's in Iraq.

Keep your eyes on the Ball, Smirk!

Fat chance.

[NNN0LHI]

11. Actually no one has a nuclear capability until they have tested one n/t

[laconicsax]

25. Not to argue, but

by your statement, Israel doesn't have nuclear capability. I could be wrong, but I was under the distinct impression that Isreal has nukes.

[Art_from_Ark]

30. A brief history of Israel's nuclear endeavors

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html

[punpirate]

35. Israel tested one jointly with South Africa...

... many years ago.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

15. How do we know the Bushies aren't lying about this one, too?

[Nottingham]

12. Well North Korea must know that we have Missiles too!

and would Blow them out of the freakin water :bounce:

So lets Make a DEAL

[PartyPooper]

19. Where's Monty Hall when you *REALLY* need him?

:nuke:

[Minstrel Boy]

13. Is this delayed stress syndrome from the Cold War?

Remember the Soviet friggin' Union? The USSR had thousands of warheads pointed at the US heartland that could launch in moments.

North Korea's a serious regional threat, but that's it. (Though, that's a lot.)

[PartyPooper]

17. Don't mess with Texas!

That's all Junior is worried about.

:eyes:

[Zero Gravitas]

18. unidentified Bush administration official

claims Democrats responsible for 9/11, cancer and that Bush was appointed by God to be Leader Of The World.

:eyes:

Even if NK DID have such a missile few would beleive it if the only source is the fear-mongering Bush Administration. They've cried "WOLF!" a few 100 times too many to have any credibility.

[ewagner]

20. 'bout all you really need to know...

...unidentified Bush administration official.

Direct from Rove's fax machine? along with instructions to pirnt them next to dubya's poll numbers?

bullshit!

[mbperrin]

21. Wonder if they'd

take suggestions for a test target site?

[Flying_Pig]

23. Oh goody. I feel better now...

n/t

[LivingInTheBubble]

29. Like the iraqi missiles?

That could travel farther than the allowed range (as long as they didnt contain a payload and were therefore lighter).

[Snellius]

31. Cheney's new foreign policy chief: Dick Morris

Why is Bush falling so badly? The superficial reasons are the Iraq casualties, the failure to find WMDs and the continuing inability to round up Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. But the real reason is that terror is receding as an issue, largely due to Bush's success.

The solution for Bush is to put terrorism back on the front burner by high profile and aggressive action against Iran and/or North Korea. It's not necessary to wag the dog, but Bush should wag his tongue and raise the profile of these two remaining threats to our security.

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/5261.htm

[0007]

33. "unidentified Bush administration official"?

I believe if this were a confirmed fact the U.S. and talking heads would be filling the air on all tv channels and radio stations this very moment.

....and it very well may be true. What do I know?

[LeftHander]

36. Bush fear tactic

Yellow alert, the Neocons....oh I mean...Terrorists "might" be planning attacks.

[Mal]

37. Is NK taking requests?

.