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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:19 PM Original message |
WP: Evolution Shares a Desk With 'Intelligent Design' |
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PittPoliSci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. science? what's that? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 09:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Open Mind? What's That? And Philosophy Is An Intregral Part Of Science |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. LOL - first learn some *real* science.... |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Science is based on materialism. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. No. It's not. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Not my DU. |
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Kimber Scott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. DU is an open-minded area. |
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trogdor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #80 |
113. True, but... |
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localroger (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
84. Extremely wrong on this point: |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:37 AM Response to Reply #84 |
122. Extremely wrong on this point |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
100. There's no "choice" involved in natural selection |
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ihelpu2see (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. exactly, there are fossil records of organisms evolving then |
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InvisibleBallots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
70. here's an interesting post from another thread |
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PittPoliSci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
88. what? are you kidding me? |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh, Fundies .... your bullying me and mine ... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 08:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. you don't sound crazy |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 03:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
93. Deleted message |
jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. what kind of school? |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. The Mormons feel that evolution |
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KDLarsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 06:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Oh, but you forget.. |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. A common assumption |
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dummy-du1 (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Alien Seeding Theory - and I got proof! |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 06:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Well, I don't think we need gods or aliens to have intelligence. |
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dummy-du1 (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 07:53 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. Infinite - not constant |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. You are ALMOST right. |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 11:13 PM Response to Reply #61 |
90. Wouldn't what you are talking about go along with intelligent design? |
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ihelpu2see (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
104. there is a big problem if Aliens did it... |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Yet you deny the perfection of god? |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
83. The pope |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #83 |
99. One more reason for serious Fundies to abhor evolution. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 09:13 PM Response to Reply #99 |
116. Oh yeah |
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StupidFOX (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 11:19 PM Response to Reply #99 |
119. Are there any liberal private schools out there? |
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renegade000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. the existence of an "intelligent force" |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Spiritual vs. intelligent design? |
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renegade000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. heh, it's late, i'm not getting your question |
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Selteri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. Eh, Intelligent design is... |
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heidler1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. If you apply intelligent design to human beings. It needed a lot of help. |
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R Hickey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. My rich republican neighbor believes in these "space aliens" |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 08:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. I didn't know explaining an "intelligent force" |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 09:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. Are You Saying There's No Such Thing As Consciousness? |
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AtTheEndOfTheDay (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Consciousness is not a force |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. This is interesting to me. |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. Wrong! The 'mind' does not exist as a physical entity. |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. I didn't say the mind exists as a physical entity. |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 05:48 AM Response to Reply #67 |
95. I'd be carefull |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. In what sense? If you believe that the mind exists independently |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 03:12 AM Response to Reply #102 |
120. Consciousness |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. "so complex as to require the creative hand of an intelligent force" |
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Autobot77 (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 02:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. If these idiots would bother to even learn science.... |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. Well, yes. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
96. Actually that is a completely wrong view of evolution. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 03:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Thank You, Comrade Trotsky! |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. You have Richard Dawkins to thank! |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Someone's got to take a stand for Jesus! |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
59. A good old-fashioned slicing with Occam's Razor is what they need |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
79. I cut myself shaving with Occam's Razor. It's damn sharp. n/t |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
97. Follow that logic a bit farther |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
106. Thanks, trotsky. Never heard it before. |
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IHeart1993 (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. These are the same people who complain |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. A yes |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. Evolution is "just a theory" |
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Evening Star (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 01:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. The Legend Of Creation |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
68. Don't forget gravity. It too is just a theory. But don't fall down. |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. Got your Intelligent Design right here... |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Intelligent design? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 04:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
94. I shudder to think what kind of being couold possibly be "watching" us |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes-The MaximumPowerPrinciple |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. They want to teach "Poof Theory" where god poof's everything |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
13. "I definitely would prefer..." |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I had a Feast Of Rationality today... |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
71. You're right. ID isn't a theory. Hell, it doesn't even make hypothesis. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
15. "Intelligent design" couldn't share a toilet with evolution. n/t |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
16. "Intelligent design" damn just typing that phrase makes me giggle. n/t |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
18. and I prefer being related to a silverback and not a republican. |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
20. these schools of thought are not incompatible...... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Then one would not need a designer to make it all work. Fundies |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 08:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Maybe he means it in the sense of fundamental physical laws |
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agincourt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
23. Give this country another 20 years, |
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chaumont58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. One thing, though, creationism doesn't wear well |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
25. Next: the Holocaust was just God-inspired spontaneous combustion. |
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Algomas (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
26. Maybe they are right... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 08:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Check again. The only thing evolution improves is a species' ability to |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
28. I get the impression that few people really understand... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
31. okay, in my opinion, there is nothing intelligent about carbon-based |
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manly (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
115. manly |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 05:24 AM Response to Reply #115 |
123. I use the word 'god' in the figurative |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
35. the argument of believers who are Deists |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
38. This country is really going down in flames fast |
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oneighty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
40. Human Intelligence |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. It shows the limits of the human intellect |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
44. I do want my children to hear about the holes in the evolution theory |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. "Let the children decide..." |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 11:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
91. You've got that right |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
49. More Fundie pandering from the Post |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
52. Will the study of intelligent design be restricted to Christianity only? |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
87. Why should it? eom |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
53. I have no problem with it just as long as it's presented as a theory |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. Of course you don't. |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
86. Ignore |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
81. It is NOT A THEORY... |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
98. And what is the definition of Scientific Theory? |
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Ellen Forradalom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
58. How about the question of evil in the world? |
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Borgnine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
69. Okay, fine. |
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Sin (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
72. Yea Theory |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
75. What a fucking imbecile it's got nothing to do with what she |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
77. She must have incredibly shakey self esteem if she is threatened by... |
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rust1d (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
78. Here is the sticker they put on the books! |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
110. "This textbook contains descriptions of evolution. Reading about |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
82. They need to keep those crazy fuckers off of school boards |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I got another sticker for them... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #82 |
101. WE need to keep them off school boards. |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
89. I hate these imbeciles with a passion. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 02:32 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. lol /eom |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
105. "Amen Theory" n/t |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
107. LTTE Orlando Sentinel on this subject. Comments? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Looks great! |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. Thank you, trotsky. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
109. Wow. That a view like ID is defended, even here at DU... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Hersh got it wrong... |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. That phrase always bothers me, too. |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
114. if god designed me he's got some explaining to do: |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
117. The "Silverback ape" |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #117 |
124. hah hah |
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cleofus1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 04:09 AM Response to Original message |
121. how could there be a god? |
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