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Well, there are numerous groups who believe the US should allow anybody to come here.
So, that's a value judgement. Me, every other country has some sort of immigration control and they definately have shorn up their ID cards and other things so at least they know who is in the country.
Right now, anybody can buy a new ID, new social security number for about $60-$200 dollars in E. LA.
There is also a "free trade" agenda to have complete migration of cheap labor going on....for example, right now you have US universities educating foreingers and now giving away US jobs to those graduates. Now, it used to be the US took the cream of the world intellectually...but this is different...they are replacing Americans with experience, higher up the pay scale with cheaper labor on a corporated controlled VISA. The people getting an H-1B visa are not the new "Teslas" of the world, it's about cheap labor, pure and simple. They preverted the original idea of getting the geniuses of the world to come here. It also bothers me because universities, even graduate school is unaffordable for Americans, the scholarships for Americans still at poverty stds or below, yet many foreign students are subsidized by their home country... so basically foreigners have a huge advantage over Americans within American's own education system. It also enables massive age discrimination by firing anyone over 40 and replacing them with a new college graduate.
I think this is about cheap labor for big business, this refusal to put in the immigration reforms.
Part of this complaint has more to do with the lifting of the Geneva conventions as well as the patriot act and I agree on that one.
Guantanamo Bay has many many reports of torture and other human rights abuses and legal abuses.
I don't think that's the same thing as securing the borders, making sure no one can get a fake ID, no one is here on an expired VISA or a forged VISA, purchased ID and then to stop giving US citizen benefits to non-citizens.
The reason this is being fought so hard is big business wants all of those illegal immigrants who depress wages.
But, it's ridiculous when there are reports of terrorists crossing the Mexico border with nuclear materials and they do NOTHING because they don't want to hurt the great cheap illegal immigrant labor trade...which is what's going on here.
I say pass HR 10, repeal the patriot act and get their shit together on civil liberties. I think if we repealed the patriot act and some of this other BS that invades civil liberties, we could have strong border control, know who is in the country yet protect civil liberties and rights.
But, the value judgement here is do you want America for American citizens or do you think it should be a free for all, anyone who gets here automatically gets all of the rights as an American citizen?
I saw no, due to practical issues, such as the strain of our services being paid for by the American tax base, environmental reasons, I say America for Americans first and also a desire to see those repressive corrupt regimes, such as Mexico, reform and provide for their own countrymen...which of course they do not and way there are so many desperate to cross the border as a result.
They are talking about guilt through association of terrorist groups...
the problem with this is after the patriot act...these US gov. creeps go infultrate environmental groups and the like, ignoring the terrorist organizations within the US.
So, fixing this so they cannot repress people's right to free speech and organization, etc. is critical to me.
They are talking about problems with people being deported who are political refugees and that might be real.
but, I don't see why a political refugee cannot just apply for asylum versus go buy a black market social security number, driver's license and parade around the US undetected, which is what HR 10 is trying to stop.
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