Reply #106: Extremely pointless and expected [View All]

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I post five articles from varying sources from the last 4 years that directly contradict every single point you have attempted to make, and all you can do is throw out the "well, you can't tell what people are by what they identify themselves as." I thought your other arguments were weak. You were just getting warmed up, huh??

I guess we should go by what YOU and people like you consider people to be. Apparently, only YOU and your ilk understand the ideological differences. Only YOU understand what and how people really are and what they really think about the issues. This argument, in addition to being the very definition of the word elitist, is also patronizing, paternalistic and shows that there are truly no depths that some will go to convince themselves and others of their intellectual and/or moral superiority. What you don't seem to understand, by even making this argument, you prove that you possess neither of these qualities.

And as for your edit:

2. The Democratic party politicians move to the right. Even if we define the "right" as to the right of what you call the far left, this holds true.

The same folks who screamed "socialist" at Obama when he was on the campaign trail. The same folks who crowed when asked about letting a man with no insurance die. The same folks who scream "government is the enemy." This group of pumped up, radicalized people, you sincerely believe that they just vanished? They are on the news constantly. Jane Hamsher tried for some time to get "liberals" to align with these people. What they lack in number, the make up in voice. And unfortunately many independents have listened.

Obama's numbers with Democrats are strong. His numbers with liberals are even stronger. His weakness? INDEPENDENTS. You and your ilk can sit and scream until the trumpets sound that they are abandoning this president because he is moving "too far to the right." This was the "reason" given by people like you when Dems lost in 2010. This was the "reason" given when Coakley lost to Brown in MA. If this is the type of "logic" that people like you are going to prescribe, then it's a damn good thing that you are the fringe and that no one takes you seriously.

For the rest of us, it's apparent that indies are joining Repubs in going against this president because they view him as TOO LIBERAL. In addition to many feeling the president hasn't done enough about jobs, he is viewed by growing numbers of Americans as TOO LIBERAL. Rightly or wrongly, THIS is the truth that you refuse to see along with apparently every other bit of information in the world that doesn't already conform to your beliefs.