Reply #21: Some Counter Arguments: [View All]

[Dinger]

1. It's not legal, and the Constitution doesn't say the "separation of SOME churches & state." It's separation
of church & state, period.
2. I have this fucked up article in front of me, and it openly says that "Bad courses will be taught," and "People
will teach a Sunday School class," but "We'll get a court to tell us what to do and then we'll fix it."
THIS HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY! END OF FUCKING STORY!
3. Where in the hell will teachers get the time to do this? It is damn hard already to fit what is needed
into the curriculum. What curriculum will be cut to make room for this? Or should we make the school day longer?
4. I disagree COMPLETELY with what this article says, as far as "It may not be necessary to provide Islam, Buddhism, or
Hinduism with equal time." Oh really???? Even if ONE course was taught, where all beliefs/religions were given equal
time, oh never mind, that one's impossible.
5. This article also mentions ( so did neocon van biema on c-spin this morning) that funds have already been
provided for high school electives (& god knows what else) in Georgia (big surprise, huh?). The article goes on to
say that "two privately produced curriculums crafted specifically to pass church-state muster are competing
for schools nationwide." Isn't that special?
6. Here is some more total and complete bullshit from this article: "These new curriculums plus "polls" (What polls?
Hmm, I wonder) suggesting that over 60% (Wow, 60 fucking percent!) of Americans favor secular teaching
about the Bible suggest that a Miss Kendrick may soon be talking about Matthew in a school near you."
Nothing cited, just claims they fabricated. What the hell is this? Some kind of threat?
7. The District vs. Schempp case removed prayer and devotion from public school. Of course, there's more
bullshit in this article: " But a new post-Schempp coalition (WHAT coalition?- more abstract reference, nothing
specific, but we all here know what this "coalition" is) INSISTS it is essential to do so ("bring back the
source of all that sectarianism"). Yeah, that's worked well in the Middle East, hasn't it?
8. This van beima IDIOT seems to think he is Shakespeare re-incarnated. He compares the works of
Shakespeare to the bible, and I really like (sarcasm) how he goes from a 1992 survey of English
teachers who expressed the amount of time Shakespeare was taught to that of the bible, and immediately
connects to the bible/Shakespeare comparison. Oh yeah, there's a little thing clearly implying
that the number of wars and number of people martyred for makes the more influential. SO WHAT!
His main argument for teaching the bible in the PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM is (his opinion) that it's influence
on western civilization makes it "o.k." to VIOLATE the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION!
9. This promotes the idea of a "Majority Faith." (Something this article actually mentioned).
10. This is state sponsored religion.
11. It is also a poorly disguised way to teach creationism in schools.
12. It is a poorly disguised plan to indoctrinate/brainwash public school students in right-wing, political
PROPAGANDA.
13. I'm getting way too mad,so I'll stop here.