Reply #102: Not a strawman argument at all.. [View All]

[Fumesucker]

I'm just pointing out that in the real world, those societies that ban pornography are not at all friendly to women and aren't really all that great to live in if you are a man either.

In fact it is the most liberal and enlightened societies in which women's rights are the most protected that are the most permissive when it comes to pornography.

We must deal with human beings the way they really are.

In Mark Twain's tale "War Prayer" he makes the point that every prayer has both a spoken (or thought) component and an unspoken component. If you pray for rain for your crops that need rain, you may well be praying for harm on your neighbor whose crops will be harmed by more rain.

I recommend reading "War Prayer", it is a disturbing and enlightening view of human nature by a keen observer of that nature. It is only a couple of pages and can be read in a few minutes.

http://www.warprayer.org/

When you wish for something to be, you do not wish in a vacuum. If you wish for pornography to not exist then you wish as well for other consequences that are unknown and unknowable.

To wish that men would not desire pornography in any form is to wish for an absolutely fundamental change in human nature that is virtually certain to have many unintended consequences, not all of which would be sure to be positive.