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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:59 AM
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25. You are not "seeing" problems, but rather creating them
I'm not saying that you're doing this purposely, but your concerns do suffer from some common misconceptions.

The most pervasive misconception is that something must be "illegal" and/or "proved" to be so. Such concepts have no place in impeachment. It is an entirely political process. Votes are cast for both impeachment and conviction/removal based entirely on the opinions of the elected officials. Even though it is called a Senate "trial," the process has but mere trappings of a legal proceeding -- and even those only by tradition.

Second, they have certainly "acted" on Unitary Theory. It is the claimed basis for their "redefining" torture in violation of US CODE: Title 18, 2441 and our obligations under the Geneva treaty. It is also the basis for the illegal spying. But -- those actions are not required for impeachment. Simply expressing such a theory that is in direct contradiction of the US Constitution constitutes sufficient grounds for impeachment, to protect and defend the Constitution.

The bottom line is that a "failed impeachment" may be all that ever happens in the way of accountability. Without it, these notions of futher investigation, prosecution, and war crime trials are simply a pipe dream. The accusation/objection must be made. Even if that's all the American People get -- is someone to stand up a say they are not liable for these atrocities.

The far worse outcome is failure to impeach. Which makes the DC Dems (and by extension the nation) complicit with war crimes and exonerates the regime.

Oh, and Reagan was either lying or delusional, either being good cause for the impeachment he joked about but that never happened. And to pick up on your later "underlings" concern, it doesn't matter if Reagan or these current clones are just dangerously incompetent or willfully treasonous, they need to be moved away from the sharp objects (and the nuclear button) via impeachment. As I implied in the first "misconception," there is no "presumption of innocence."

So you see, the situation is already "back to where it was." Without action, there is further damage.

Impeachment is our ONLY moral, patriotic option.

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