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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:47 AM
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2. hmm...
nice rant. I wonder which part where I said I even endorsed the front runner?


I've been watching these little flame wars here for quite some time. the self righteousness of the kucinich supporters. the smug attacks from the obama and edwards supporters. the constant defense at the slightest apparent slight from the hilary supporters.

I'd remind each of them of the blindness of ideology. kucinich was anti-choice for the longest time. edwards and hilary voted for the war. obama has cast bad votes as well. each one has some failings that are easy to point out, none of them are ideologically perfect. and its these ideologues who have championed these four on here more than anything that undoubtedly would be turning others off from the political process. how refreshing would it be to hear edwards say, "as much as I may disagree with senator clinton on some topics, we do have a lot of common ground, and here's how I'll distinguish it." or clinton say, "even though I feel I would be the most qualified, I do feel senator obama is head and shoulders above our competition." in fact, I think edwards and obama have made a fatal flaw by going negative against hilary clinton with so much time left. I could easily point out the flawed naivety of kucinich to the reality of the larger world, that unfortunately, there ARE people who want to kill us and no department of peace is going to solve that. I could point out hilary's willingness to work with people associated with blackwater. or edwards votes for NAFTA and suddenly deciding after being DLC, he's a populist overnight. I could bring up obama's willingness to talk change, then simply repeating vague answers that don't always have substance and his willingness to go negative and play politics as usual.

the dodd, richardson, and biden supporters seem to be the ones who genuinely want open and honest debate. probably why I'm supporting biden is the reaction of the political "crips and bloods" some fellow DU'ers have become. I thought biden's good natured joke about bill richardson saying he'd make a "great secretary of state" was hilarious because it revealed a level of comradeship with his opponent.

and before I hear any more self righteousness, I've already lost friends to this war. I'm watching friends come back who say they don't know how to walk around without a rifle in their hands, who can't even interact with other people. its my generation who will inherit this earth and whats left behind. I'm very well aware of the consquences of the next election. I'm well aware of the costs of health care, of golden parachutes. but that can only be won by working for our party as a whole.


honestly, its starting to remind me of schoolyard cliques a bit. if the bigger picture is what you say it is, then I'd remind fellow democrats and liberals of one thing. none of us are stupid. if we were, we wouldn't be democrats. the negativity and insults should be taken as an insult to the intelligence of people who post here. democrats, by and large I've found, are more than willing to hear issues, listen to ideas, and actually pay attention to facts. we shouldn't need to reduce our ideas to bumper stickers to beat each other with. save that for romney and giuliani to sit around and see who can torture and lie more.
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