Reply #27: 'policies of mass murder' [View All]

[northzax]

yes, children die every day in thei world. it sucks, but it's reality. And can we stop it all? not a chance.

For the record, I have never claimed that Bill Clinton was infallaible, lord knows he wasn't.

please explain how your candidate, or anyone else, would have stopped all children from dying, all over the world. Some problems are intractable, some we inherit from the past, but no President can stop the civil war in Colombia. No president could have stopped the civil war tht tore the former yugoslavia to pieces, no President could have stopped the faminies in North Korea, or the use of terror to kill children and innocents. But let's remember what he did do. He forced, by sheer will, the warring factions in Ireland to listen to the Majority of the population and find peace. He was well on the way to forcing the extremists in the Israeli Occupied territories to deal with each other. His leadership helped prevent Indonesia from spiralling into Civil War after the crash of 1997-1998.

Name one conflict that George Bush has alleviated or prevented from escalating. Since he took office, all those situations, with the notable exception of Ireland, are WORSE, not better. North Korea is more unstable, thanks to Bush's poolicies. Iraq is more unstable, Colombia is unheard of. Indonesia has sunk into a repeating current of repression and violence. and don't get me started on the Occupied Territories, I think we all know about that. Shall we talk domestic policy, or can we agree that Bush is an awful President? Can we agree that the world is significantly WORSE off for having George Bush in the most powerful seat for the past three-odd years. Worse off for his policies and decisions. Would it be perfect with Al Gore as President? not a chance, we still would have gone ot war in Afganistan, since 9/11 would still have happened. We'd still have gaping holes in the economy leading from that incident and the dot-com collapse. But would we be better off? you have to answer that for yourself, but I say yes.

I don't believe in the marxist vision of a utopia rising from the ashes of capitalism. It ain't gonna happen. I will be content with margianally improving things every year, always pushing for better things. Swinging for the fences is dramatic, and makes heroes out of people, but in crunch time, the winners are those who it single after single.
Effective change is incremental, it may be unsatisfying, but in the long term, it works.