Reply #29: That's a fair point [View All]

[sandnsea]

He has probably done a lot for the party over the years, fundraising and such, particularly in CT. Still, he's no Bill or Hil, he hasn't contributed to any sort of national face of a popular Democratic Party whatsoever. I'd still say he's benefited from the party infinitely more than the party benefited from him.

I also don't think his votes are the bulk of the problem. He's sort of the opposite of Biden. Biden sounds good a lot more often than Lieberman, but folds when you need the vote. Lieberman may be more dependable on the vote, but he just doesn't get the political climate we're in with these Republicans. I get the impression that he doesn't understand what is at stake for people out here with these Republican policies and Supremes, he doesn't get how much people are suffering. He doesn't understand that their goal is to undo the last 100 years, all of it. If he did, there's no way he wouldn't be filibustering those judicial nominations and the like. Joe is a northeastern Democrat who is popular in his state, there's absolutely no reason for him not to take a stronger stand against this horrible right wing agenda, that's why he gets more grief than red state Dems.

He ran as a Democrat because he never believed he'd lose, it had nothing to do with what he thought would be good for the party. But now he does need to think about that, and he continues to do the exact things that caused him to lose the primary - bad mouthing Democrats and siding with Republicans when he knows good and well that convincing the voters to vote against Republicans is key to regaining Congress. He's out of touch, he needs to accept it, and he needs to go.