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DannyRed Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 11:39 PM
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168. When I first came on this site
about a year and a half ago, I was pretty much uncommitted.

After watching the anbtics of some, who shall remain nameless, but whom everyone knows and despises, I was turned off to Kerry.

Kerry was already pretty low in my opinion due to his vote for the IWR and the PATRIOT act and the NCLB, and numerous other lame-ass betrayals.

Kerry was already low in my book, due to the fact that I am originally from Maine, and I know what kind of bullshit, arm-twisting, backstabbing CRAP John Kerry has pulled in regards to the Big Dig, in regards to the rail line terminus from Maine to Mass (and the reneging on that deal that has in many ways hamstrung the Downeaster)

BUT, I was prepared to forgive and forget, to chalk it up to the nasty realities of "dealing and playing" in the US Senate (are we all cognizant, yet of WHY so few senators get elected???)...then I read the offensive, arrogant, pompous dishonest spew being sprayed across my screen by a few well-known and well-reviled Kerry Pushers.

They smeared Dean. They smeared Clark. They Smeared Edwards. They Laughed at Kucinich, and snarled at Gep., They Pooh-Pooh CMB, and ignored Sharpton except when Sharpton was engaging in his GOP funded and choreographed eviscerations of the other candidates.

I, personally, began to support Dean. For many reasons. Primarily, when he said on the national stage (paraphrased) "I am tired of having fundamentalist preachers tell me how to live my life"...that and much more.

Has Dean been a perfect candidate? Far from it.

Is Dean a perfect man, or a perfect politician? HA HA no such thing. Dean is a flawed candidate, has flawed positions on many issues, and has, in the past done deals, made compromises, and let down one faction or another.

All polticians are that way, that's their job.

Now that Dean appears to be on the ropes, I am looking hard at other candidates (keeping in mind that there are deals to be made, support to be bandied, and leverage to be gained...) ALSO keeping in mind that it's a two way street, and my guy is a solid second in Delegates, and is solidly second in most of the country, and has more cash, and a better, more solid base of volunteer and grassroots support than the others....

And I am looking again at kerry, edwards, clark, and kucinich.

And I will tell you what, the order of my preference has to do with TWO factors:

1) the qualities of the candidates and their histories and convictions.

Kucinich has quality and conviction and a good record. He's my #2.

Clark has quality and conviction, but lacks political weight and record. He's #3.

Edwards has god and bad qualities, has some weight and a spotty record. I volunteered for his campaign against Lauch Faircloth when I was living in North Carolina. I was a bit disappointed in him. He's my #4.

Kerry continues to disappoint me. He's my #5 by a long margin. Hold my nose.

2) The quality and convictions of the supporters.

As you can probably tell, the SAME people who turned me off to Kerry even more last year, are STILL engaging in their same old tired game of pompous, arrogant, dismissive, insulting, belittling and dishonest crap.

I can't name them, because this post will be deleted. It may be deleted anyway.

You know who they are, and everyone else does too.

Nice going guys.

Just a little hint.

Nader gave you guys a first taste.

Dean administered some more medicine.

Keep it up, and you and people like you will engineer the final and real collapse of the Democratic Party by assisting and helping in the alienation of everyone who is not "on your team"....

Maybe that's for the best.

Maybe not.

But if people get kicked in the face enough times, eventually they will fight back.

Enjoy.
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