Reply #32: Anecdotal when it's been caught on VIDEO? [View All]

[Eloriel]

Who, exactly, are you trying to kid here?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108750,00.html

On Thursday night at about 7 p.m. in Lisbon Iowa, Dick Stater and his wife Suzette Astley — a volunteer coordinator for Dean for America — were at home being interviewed by Richard Hoefer, a Dean supporter, who is making a documentary about the former Vermont governor's campaign. Also in the room was Susan Alexander, a neighbor and Suzette's friend, who came over to be filmed for the documentary.

As the camera rolled, they received a 17-minute phone call from Jacob Thomas. Thomas identified himself as a volunteer for the Kerry campaign in Cedar Rapids who was conducting voter identification calls. Alexander said she received a similar call earlier in the evening....As a Dean volunteer coordinator, she was clearly aware that the call she was receiving was potentially inappropriate and she methodically wrote everything down.

When asked on the call, Astley identified herself as a Dean supporter, whereupon she said Thomas began to say negative, misleading and occasionally "false things about Dr Dean."

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Astley said supervisor "Derek" accused her of lying about the tone of her conversation with Thomas. When Astley challenged him on the "environmental racist" remark, she said Derek complained that Dean supporters "just don't seem to care about the facts."

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Astley said her husband Dick contacted Daneille Black, the regional Kerry coordinator near Lisbon, to complain. Dick Stater told Fox News he got a "luke warm apology that sounded like they were most sorry they got caught".

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Here IS some anecdotal information for ya --from one of our own DUers, someone I respect quite a bit, and he provides some info I've seen reported elsehwere (on the blog) as well:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=183938#184509
cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-25-04 02:28 AM
Response to Reply #10

12. someone pays telemarketers to canvass .....

Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 02:30 AM by cosmicdot
political telemarketing technique probably out of the Lee Atwater Book in which telephone calls are used to canvass vast numbers of potential voters, feeding them false and damaging 'information' about a candidate under the guise of taking a poll to see how this 'information' affects voter preferences. The intent is to 'push' the voters away from one candidate and toward the opposing candidate. Political telemarketing, using innuendo and, in many cases, clearly false information to influence voters; there is no intent to conduct research.

i.e., my Iowan friend said they received calls asking such questions as:

- Did you know that Howard Dean is married to a Jew?

- Did you know that Dean is an environmental racist? (whatever that means)

- Did you know that Dean is a non Christian ?

- Would you change your pledge from Dean to Kerry if you knew that Dean was supporting Gay marriage ?

- Did you know that Govenor Howard Dean has been diagnosed as a manic
depressive, prone to "fits of rage" ?

my Iowan friend, also, reported that:

- Calls came at 3 in the morning posing as from the Dean campaign.

- GOPers went to caucuses in droves, switched party affiliations and sided with Kerry........that one precinct in Sioux City had 54 republicans switch parties at the door, and all went to Kerry.

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And if you're claiming that Dems have tried to stop Dean, then you're 100% right. I'm one of them. But to say that the motives are anything other than self-preservation is to make a baseless accusation.

Pete, Pete. Please. Do you honestly not know about the full weight of the Democratic Establishment being thrown against Dean, about the fact that Clinton got Clark into the race to STOP DEAN, and all the machinations that have been going on -- or are you just being coy?

But in a sense, you're right. The motive IS self-preservation. Self-preservation of their power. The very last thing they want is for The People to get their country back.