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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:34 PM
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A Troubling Analogy: Why Do Some Support Nixon Dirty Tricksters Over Democrat Hillary Clinton?
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First I have a question that every single person at DU who is not a Freeper mole needs to be asking themselves: Why is Pat Buchanan doing commentary on the Democratic primary? Pat Buchanan’s claim to fame is as Nixon’s dirty campaign tricks master. Here are some of the dirty tricks he invented:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/watergate/stories/buchananmemo.htm

"The preparation of attacks on one Democrat by another -- and 'endorsements' of one Democrat by another, which has to be repudiated, are examples of what can be done. Nothing should be done here, incidentally, which can seriously backfire and anything done should be cleared by the highest campaign authority. The Secret Service, it should be noted, will be all over Miami; and any activity will have to take into consideration their capabilities.
"We should guard here against a) anything which enables the Democrats to blame us for the mess which takes place in Miami Beach; b) anything which can be traced back to us and c) anything which is so horrendous as to damage us, if the hand is discovered."


Buchanan lied about the existence of this document to Congress, which makes him a perjurer. He could have been tried, convicted and sent to jail.

The Nixon specialty in 1972 was interfering in the Democratic primary---sabotaging Muskie’s campaign in order to force him out of the race to make way for challengers whom Nixon declared that he would rather run against, because he thought they would be easier to beat. In other words, Buchanan, Nixon and CREEP chose the 1972 Democratic presidential candidate for us---they only let us think that we were getting to select McGovern. They cleared the field.

If this were a normal democracy in which normal rules applied, a known partisan dirty trickster like Pat Buchanan would never be allowed to do on air commentary on the Democratic primary where he can interject comments that might sway voters opinion. This is no different than MSNBC sending the Plumbers into Democratic Headquarters.

Now, my next point, in “A Troubling Pattern” H20 Man reminds us of the dirty tricks played by the Nixon re-election campaign.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4509372

Then, H20 Man closes with the implication that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton somehow has the powers of Nixon---FCC with power to grant favors or squash media empires, Department of Justice which can initiate bogus prosecutions in retaliation and cover up criminal activity, warrantless wiretaps for blackmail purposes against news industry executives and lots of U.S. government money to use as bribes---to use to force MSNBC and the rest of the news media to do her bidding.

This is so hysterically funny---right up there with Hillary was having an affair with Vince Foster so she got her goons from the Arkansas Mafia to rub him out---that I would laugh---if not for the fact that so many people at DU are parroting this nonsense.

Just the facts, Jack. Hillary is not Michael Bloomberg. She is not a billionaire. She is not a Bush either, with friends in Saudi Arabia who can ship in suit cases full of cash. The military and CIA and FBI all despise her and her husband, so they are not going to kill anyone for her. Those who secretly believe that she has supernatural powers or laser beam eyes are just too stupid to argue with.

All Hillary has to bargain with is the debates. And she needs those a hell of a lot more than Obama. Think about it. Obama does not want to debate. He is ahead, but Hillary gets momentum when they debate. If Hillary is willing to give up one of her two precious debates, because she is so angry over Chelsea, she harms herself much more than MSNBC—and she helps Obama. Her actions are not those of political calculation. They are those of a mother. Only someone who believes that the ground rules state “Hillary must always act unfeeling so that we can hate her” would complain---and that is exactly how some Obama supporters seem to be reacting now.

“She is stealing our victimhood!”

I don’t know how many times I have seen some variation of this. If you people had any idea what it is really like to be one of society’s victims----say a child soldier in Africa or a young mother in Thailand with AIDS or homeless veteran with PTSD---you would be telling Hillary “Take my victimhood! Please!”

Knowing what I know about Tweety and his misogyny, I watched CNN’s election coverage last night to see why some self advertised “Obama supporters” (I think more than a few are Freeper trouble makers) claim that MSNBC is “fair and balanced” in its Hillary coverage while CNN is biased. What I saw was a news network that was discussing issues like the economy and the mortgage crisis and how much money the candidates had and who won last night (Obama). No one called Hillary a goddess. No one called Hillary a she-devil.

Hmm. Could this be the problem? Have the self described Obama supporters come to expect Hillary bashing as their due? Does any news network that does not deliver “she-devil” and reminiscences on Clinton’s penis face their wrath? It is true that the corporate media Big Lie Hillary is a Bitch is very convenient for them. Lots of potential Obama supporters are also potential Hillary supporters. If they can work themselves and other Democrats into a frenzy of “Hillary is so eeeevil” then they can get some Democratic voters to switch candidates. Never mind that Obama is not running on a platform of “Hillary is so eeeevil!” Barack is inspiring and a great crowd pleaser, but maybe he is not nasty enough when it comes to trench warfare. Maybe his supporters have to help him out.

So, Obama’s supporters seek to turn everything that happens to the Clintons into some kind of evil attack on their candidate. If Hillary tries to defend her daughter, she is threatening one of the Obama campaign’s secret weapons—Tweety’s sexist attacks.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200801110002?f=i_related

Using overtly sexist language, he has referred to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) as a "she devil" and compared her to a "strip-teaser." He has called her "witchy" and likened her voice to "fingernails on a blackboard." He has referred to men who support her as "castratos in the eunuch chorus." He has suggested Clinton is not "a convincing mom" and said "modern women" like Clinton are unacceptable to "Midwest guys." He has called her "Madame Defarge" and "Nurse Ratched."



The suspension of Schuster has lead many to wonder why Matthews is still there---and if Matthews is fired or suspended who will keep up the Big Lie that Hillary is a Bitch who only draws air and walks the earth to steal the spotlight from Obama who deserves all the attention because his adoring followers say that he does .

Check out this from Crooks and Liars:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/08/david-shuster-suspended-over-chelsea-clinton-remarks/

Hi David, I’ve really liked the work you’ve done (and want you get your own show) and so does most of the blogosphere, but saying Chelsea’s being “pimped out” was out of line. Why is it not OK for Chelsea to campaign for her mother? If David used the word “pimp” in any context associated with the Obama camp, I think I know how everyone would react. He’s apologizing on Tucker later today. That’s a good thing.

“On Thursday’s “Tucker” on MSNBC, David Shuster, who was serving as guest-host of the program, made a comment about Chelsea Clinton and the Clinton campaign that was irresponsible and inappropriate. Shuster, who apologized this morning on MSNBC and will again this evening, has been suspended from appearing on all NBC News broadcasts, other than to make his apology. He has also extended an apology to the Clinton family. NBC News takes these matters seriously, and offers our sincere regrets to the Clintons for the remarks.”

Makes you wonder why Matthews wasn’t suspended.


But then check out the comment below:

I’m so sick of The Fucking Clintons. This is all they do. Cry, cry, cry. Whine, whine, whine. She has to grab the attention away from Obama who has momentum. Is this what you Democrats are going to vote for on? The Endless Clinton Soap Opera. Maybe MSNBC is in on it with them. Yet you all never seriously took The Great Whore Master to task when he attacked Obama in South Carolina. Now the Whore Master is going around saying that he’s allowed to support his wife but not defend her. What a joke coming out of the Great Wife Cheater’s mouth.


Somewhere, someone is saying that this comment is all Clinton’s fault. Because he or she or both of them are too divisive.

Look at the language of the comment posted at Crooks and Liars That is a classic woman hating rant. Hillary is emasculating Obama, stealing his power. “The Great Whore”. Bill is the consort of the whore or the Devil (serpent in the world’s oldest religions). The reference to coming out of his mouth even references the lies of the Devil. Oh man, Joseph Campbell would have had a field day with that one. Classic modern male terror of the remembered powerful female.

And this remark is not the isolated ravings of one weirdo. This comment speaks for a lot of people in America. We are a seriously messed up country where women are the victims of more hate crimes that any other group. Bill Clinton came into office vilified, because he presented his wife to the American people as an equal, and the large woman hating portion of our population just could not stand it. The women of New Hampshire were vilified as “racists”, because they felt more comfortable trusting another women with their reproductive choice than a man, even though as Catholics they have probably seen male politicians sell them out on the issue before. Every day in America, women who are raped are asked “What were you wearing? Why did you go there alone?” As if the hatred and violence that was directed their way was their fault. They asked for it. This is how society oppresses women, pushes them back into the hole where they are supposed to live, subservient, beaten down, always there for some man to take a swing at when his day at work does not go well.
When the Hillary bashers claim that it is all her fault that her daughter is insulted, it is part of the same bloody sick pattern.

The more I see of woman hating America, the more convinced I become that we are not just ready for a woman president or vice president. We need it.

Otherwise, we will hate ourselves. You can not oppress your mothers, sisters, daughters and wives without feeling remorse, shame and guilt. You can project those feelings on the women, but that only makes the negative emotions worse. Once we get conflicted enough, then the corporate media can send in its Pat Buchanans and its Chris Matthews to tell all kind of lies about why we feel bad and what we need to do to make all the pain go away. They will not say “It is because you are treating another human being in an inhumane way” Oh no! The corporate media pundits will tell you what their corporate masters want you to hear. Tweety will tell you that you feel angry, because Bill Clinton did it. Pat Buchanan will tell you it is the immigrants.

Hitler said it was the Jews.

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