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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 08:04 PM
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The Fall Of The Republic
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Edited on Sat May-07-05 08:11 PM by TheWatcher
This post needs a Preface, because as we all know, no future is absolute, nothing is pre-determined, and we do not know our fate to be ultimate.

No one can tell exactly what the future will hold. The best we can do sometimes is to give our best forecasts and guesses based on the presumption that the current circumstances will continue in the fashion they are currently subscribed in, with little or no change in direction.


That being said, it is my belief that if the current course we are on continues unabated and without a radical change in direction or disruption of said course.....

This country is dead, finished, and beyond the Point Of No Return, and beyond any hope of redemption.

And the society that makes up this country and all of it's citizens, is NOT going to survive the consequences that are being brought to bear by the current Power Structure.

Now, I know some will dismiss this as another Doom and Gloom Post. If you wish to do that, fine. But if you look at my posting history you will find I have NEVER been one to advocate giving up hope, giving up the fight, or succumbing to this new generation of Fascism and outright Nazism that we are currently living through.

The latest revelation is the Memo that reveals, once and for all, that the US and Great Britain completely manufactured, fabricated, and fixed intelligence and facts to justify an invasion of Iraq, and that all of this was planned and formulated LONG before 9/11. You know the Memo, the one that has "Impeachment Written All Over It."

But nothing is going to be done. You can be assured of this. Congress will sit there with glazed over eyes and continue to look the other way. The Media, which is now nothing more than an Orwellian Parrot that works exclusively for this Power Structure, is not going to touch it, and if they do it will die a quick death. Besides, there are far too many more important distractions that are far more pressing and relevant to feed to you, such as "The Runaway Bride Story", which I'm SURE we can all admit is the most groundbreaking and Civilization altering story since Man's First Trip To The Moon. (Sarcasm Intended).

You would think that this Memo would be "The Smoking Gun" that causes the whole House Of Cards to Fall. But how many of these have their been? How MANY Smoking Guns have we seen that were enough to send perhaps the majority of our current elected leaders, at least on the Republican Side to Jail for Treason, High Crimes, you NAME it?

How many have their been in the past four years alone?

How many have we held tightly in our hopeful fists and raised into the air on this Site proclaiming "THIS has GOT to be IT?"

9/11, the Stolen Elections, The Illegal War, The Torture at Abu Gareb, Jeff Gannon and all of the other paid propaganda Goebbels clones, Enron and all the Corporate Scandals, Cheney's Energy Meetings, The Social Security Scam....Dear God there have been SO MANY Scandals and Crimes committed by these people my head is spinning and almost overwhelmed and short circuiting sitting here trying to go over all of them. There is SO MUCH corruption and out of control thuggery, one does not even know where to begin.

Even if this Administrations Policies don't finish us, The Economic Environment WILL. But that is an ENTIRELY different discussion.

Look, my fellow Americans, it has come to the point where even Nixon was CHRIST compared to this bunch.

And yet day after day, it goes on, and on, and on, and on.

We could rant until we are Blue In The Face about all of these things, and every day many of us do, but perhaps it all comes down to one very simple question, because when you are dealing with corruption and hubris this vast and deep seeded, it helps to simplify things to regain clarity and perspective.

WHAT Is It Going To TAKE To Put A Stop To All Of This?

What is going to have to happen before we somehow change the course we are on that is ultimately going to lead to at the very least the demise of our country, and at worst the demise of most of us living in this country.

With many of the revelations that have come out recently, although we were, in many minds here, past this point long ago, there is now NO DOUBT that we are LONG past the point of any question that our President needs to be impeached, and perhaps many of our Congressmen and his entire cabinet need to be prosecuted and suffer the stiffest possible penalty for the crimes they have wrought upon not only this country but this entire planet and humanity itself.

The Ghosts Of The Past have returned, and like it or not, whether you choose to subscribe to the notion or not, IT HAS HAPPENED HERE.

And as has painstakingly been covered here on this Site for the past four years, the legal groundwork through legislative and other processes has been laid to usher in the complete and total takeover of this nation for transformation into a Fascistic Theocracy, or whatever other nightmare they have planned. One need only examine the legislation that has been passed since 9/11 alone to realize the building blocks that are in place.

The Voting Machines are still the key to the future of the Electoral Process in this country. All of the relevant information is out there to point to the future intentions of their application and there is plenty of evidence of what they have already been used for, yet still a large majority refuse to acknowledge it. These machines have NEGATED our Constitutional ability to democratically control and choose our leaders. But too many still wish to think of this past Election as legitimate, and the Fraud that in all probability occurred as "Radical Conspiracy Theory", or "Unhealthy Speculation that will only inflame the Right and make us look too radical and illogical."

While at the same time our adversaries continue to get away with the most illogical and criminal behavior, brazenly and blatantly for all the world to see, and our so called "Leadership" on the left continues to be Spineless enablers putting on the worst Vaudeville Parody of "Opposition."

But hey, at least The Queers can't Marry, right?

This is NOT to say that more aren't waking up or coming to the realization of the Poison that is slowly killing our (Banana) Republic, and this is not to say that there is not opposition to these Fascists. One only need look around DU and you will find there are plenty of signs of Intelligent Life, Free Thinking Individuals, and determined Activists who are willing to fight even if there is no hope.


But I'm sorry kids, the Majority of Americans simply either do not give a shit, are willfully ignorant, or actually AGREE with what is going on.

The Bush faithful are Enemies Of The State and this Planet, of course. It doesn't matter to them how stupid Bush is, or what Bush does, They BELIEVE in what he stands for, and they are every bit the Nazis that Bush, his Cabinet and Handlers are.

The uninformed/apathetic simply don't seem to care what happens and cannot seem to be bothered with what is going on around them. If it doesn't afffect them directly, they aren't interested. What they fail to realize is that by the time all of this actually DOES affect them it will be FAR TOO LATE to change anything or do anything to stop it at that point.

The willfully ignorant simply baffle me. Those who deep down KNOW what is going on, but they simply ignore it or look the other way. Just like the "Good Germans" in the 1930's. It is fascinating sometimes to listen to the rationalizations these people come up with.

Our Media, as I said earlier, is lost. They work for the Powers That Be, and their job from here on out is to distribute the Propaganda given to them by by said PTB, and to provide the Distraction and Cover necessary for TPTB so that they may act without interference from a questioning Public. And though the complexities of this are many, the concept is that simple. Period.

What we are seeing is The Perfect Storm that is gathering strength, and perhaps will bear witness to the most Epic Fall of a Civilization since the Roman Empire.

And it hurts to think that although there will obviously be resistance, and hopefully resistance even in the absence of hope from people like those who visit this Site every day, and like minded individuals, that this will happen mostly unabated and without resistance by the majority of Americans.

Like I said, nothing is absolute. There are many unknown variables that could play out here that we have not yet seen come to bear. There could be something totally out of Left Field that could Topple this Administration tomorrow, next week, next year. There is ALWAYS HOPE, no matter how faint.

And that is why we continue to fight, to resist, and visit DU everyday, if for nothing more than to be comforted by the Oasis of The Campfire of like minded individuals who have not surrendered their sensibilities and logic to the Kool-Aid.

However, if there is no change of course, then the best you can do is take care of your loved one's, take care of your families and friends, make all the difference you can in their lives and in the lives you have the direct ability to touch, and live out your life on YOUR Terms, doing the best you can to work around the tendrils of Fascism and Theocracy.

Because eventually this country WILL Fall.

We cannot continue like this.

And we WILL not.

Eventually, resolution will come, whether we have a hand in it or not.

And that may not be to our advantage, if it falls to the rest of the World to seek resolution to the Repeating Of History we are quickly evolving into.

So, again I ask, WHAT Is It Going To TAKE To Bring These People Down?

It may be time to face the reality that although we MUST fight to make sure the outcome is the opposite, the answer may very well be....

NOTHING CAN.

And if that is the case, we must be prepared to decide our course of action in the face of that reality. That probably shouldn't be discussed here. Not publicly.

And no, I don't have any ultimate solutions. And I know none of us likely do. I suppose i am editorializing the feelings of what I see happening, and preaching to the choir. I really don't know what else to do right now. Like Malloy often says, I shouldn't really express the more radical solutions I have on my mind.

I think there are so many wonderful ideas that have been expressed on this Site, and we have a wonderful Brain Trust here that has come up with many paths that lead in the right direction.

But with the Voting Machines being controlled by those in Power, I simply don't see how they will work. And that is my honest assessment.

So What Will It Take?

I Don't Know.

But every day I will continue to fight, resist, and do what I can as an individual to combat all of this, and seek solace and information from places like DU. Because I cannot give up. I just can't.

None Of Us Can.

And None Of Us Will.



It's Hard To Love
There's So Much To Hate
Hnaging On To Hope
When There Is No Hope To Speak Of

And The Wounded Skies Above
Say It's Much Too Late

So Maybe We Should All
Be Praying For Time...........

-George Michael

/ranting editorializing off
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