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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:12 PM
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44. in your opinion ...
"In my opinion, when someone violates your space to that degree
they forfeit any rights they have."


In my opinion, the moon is made of green cheese.

Do you care?


Some things are matters of opinion. Some things are not.

If rights are "unalienable", as so many of you folks like to say at such length (and as your constitution says), how exactly does someone "forfeit" them?

You do know how definitions work, right?


"Tony was weird? Dont care. Tony said he hates burglars? Dont care.
Tony fired multiple times untill the remaining burglar was gone?
Dont care. Tony might not have been 'terrified'? Dont care."


You said it. Don't care. As in: "Kid was a burglar? Don't care." The difference is that mine reflects what those constitutions and suchlike say, and is relevant: right to life. Yours reflects personal preference, and is irrelevant.

Of course, whether Tony was a racist or anything else like that is not something that a jury should care about -- except to the extent that his previous racist statements and the like are useful in determining what his state of mind was at the time. And whether or not you care, his state of mind -- e.g., whether he was "terrified" -- happens to be relevant to the question of whether he had justification for what he did. Whether you care about that just isn't relevant to anything.


"You break into a house with intent to rob, you risk quick retribution
at the hands of the resident."


And as a statement of fact, that may well be.

Another statement of fact would be: shoot a burglar on sight, and you risk prosecution for assault or homicide.

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