Reply #33: Yes I really reposted my words to correct your lie about what was said. [View All]

[kristopher]

Now you do it again.

You are inserting YOUR claim and attributing it falsely to me.

Nowhere did I write that "It's cheaper to build a gas plant "destined to be phased out", and then a storage facility, than it is to build just a storage facility" as an isolated argument.

The broad picture is (as you know in sprite of your pretense of stupidity) that there is a huge amount of unused EXISTING natural gas capacity. Taken as a whole this means that turning on those EXISTING natural gas facilities to enable full utilization of renewables allows us to turn off coal plants long before it would happen if we were to spend money on storage instead of more renewable generation.

That, in turn, means that near and mid-term policies will be crafted that will encourage the building of renewable generation while putting the deployment of storage at a lower priority.

That, in turn, means that some natural gas plants will get built even though they are going to have a limited lifespan.

Contributing to that is the fact that natural gas is much cheaper to build than any existing storage technology that I know of.

Also as a contributing factor we should consider that the facilities that operate on fossil fuel natural gas have the *potential* of being successfully converted to biologically derived methane and *perhaps* some will be coupled with plans like the compressed air storage system that fits in used cargo containers. These points are totally speculative, but they are reasonable speculations about how value can be enhanced to achieve our overall carbon reduction goals most quickly and efficiently.

Meanwhile we have to deal with you nukenuts trying to misinform people about renewables every chance you get. Get a clue - if your preference had merit, you wouldn't need to lie nor would you be arguing with me.

I have no intrinsic or irrational bias against nuclear energy. If it was a good solution I'd be arguing for it just as I argue that natural gas has to be part of the solution.

Nuclear just doesn't get the job done right.