Reply #50: They are a big part of bush's base. And this screws them over yet again. [View All]

[LynnTheDem]

And the more they get screwed over by the right, the louder and more insane they get. And that turns off moderates and THOSE are the ones we need to court to overcome Diebold.

We are, at the very worst, exactly where we were weeks ago when Reid offered the EXACT SAME DEAL that the rethugs called "paltry and unprincipled" then, that yesterday the rethugs accepted. SAME DEAL.

If we had forced a showdown and lost that vote -and it's more likely we would have lost it because we were 2 votes short that we knew of- THEN we would have lost. A BIG loss.

And bush would still have got his Owens and the other 2 nuts, PLUS anyone else he wanted. ANYONE.

Now, at the very least, we have time to keep working on the moderates about how these judicial nuts mustn't be permitted in, on how radical an insane lunatic bush really is, and his radical looney tunes rightwingnut fundies etc.

We have at the least bought time, have the rightwingnuts attacking each other which should only help ADD to support for our side of the issue, have the rightwingnuts publicly calling this a "GREAT VICTORY" for the Dems and a huge loss for themselves, STILL have the filibuster, can always force a showdown vote later on, and yes we pay by bush getting votes on his 3 lunatics.

But if we'd lost a showdown vote, bush would have got his 3...and ANYONE else he ever wanted.