You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #20: Worldview, yes [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. Worldview, yes
but I'd contend that there can be a large difference in worldview between people of the same denomination, and sometimes little between people of completely different religions.

Your point about the ASPCA is good; but I think that often the same results come from differing religious reasons (for instance, I thought the cow was sacred in Hinduism because of its usefulness, and association with certain gods, rather than a belief that human souls can be reincarnated as cows).

Yes, I suppose there are political points in the film, though they don't seem to be getting much play at the moment.

I'm English, and I lived in the US for 2 years, so I've seen a little of US politics, but also see it in the international news, and through websites like this (the DU name is stolen from John Cleese, by the way).
It's unusual for British politicians to explicitly mention religion much, for instance, about the Tory leader:
"Crucially, moreover, Howard's Jewish profile has always been low. True, in his leadership bid he drew attention to the fact that he was the child of immigrants. True, he says Jewish values are still 'an important guide and influence on my life', and he attends a (Liberal) synagogue on the high holydays. But he has never made much of his Jewishness. His wife, the former model Sandra Paul, is a member of the Church of England; and his son Nick not only became a Christian, but provoked controversy as a student when he started trying to convert Jews to Christianity as well."
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1103/phillips_2003_11_10.php3
I'd never heard about his son (and I think I'm fairly well informed), and I had to search for this to find out if he was a practising Jew or not - but the story of how his father came to Britain (fleeing Hitler) was much better known.
Blair is considered unusual in talking at all about his religion (and even then, his Press Secretary once stopped all religious questions with "we don't do religion"). I know some of the current cabinet are agnostic or atheistic enough to have affirmed allegiance to the Queen, rather than swearing it, but I'd challenge anyone to tell which.
In UK politics, when a subject that does have a significant ethical component comes up, it's very often declared a 'free vote' - there's no party line on it. This would include capital punishment, abortion, and, these days, homosexual matters (though the Tories used to have party policies on this - they've dropped that, since it was losing them some of their more talented politicians). Apart from in Northern Ireland, I'd be surprised to see a candidate mention these explicitly when trying to get elected (though I think many Tories are still pro death penalty, personally).
Contrast this with the US, where candidates seem to be expected to state their views on abortion, and now gay marriage, and very frequently mention God and their religion. The large number of people who say they wouldn't vote for an atheist for president look very strange from a UK perspective.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC