You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #38: Look... [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. Look...
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 06:11 PM by Heyo
You're apparently a socialist.. I am a capitalist...

It makes no sense to bash our heads against each other in a NASCAR thread. I will never convince you to accept capitalism, you damn sure will never get me to accept Socialism. So lets not even get too far into it.

I will answer your question though, you wanted to know what's so great about capitalism?

Well, for me it's the idea of basic fundamental freedom at the deepest level of humanity. I believe that each of us, as we are born.. (I won't say "creator" because this is not about that)... we are born as a free and individual person. We are born with certain rights that I feel NOBODY should have the right to take away. No person and no government. No government has the right to tell us how to run our lives. Nobody has the right to take all your stuff and give it to someone else.

See, I see the idea of socialism as so deeply fundamentally flawed. It makes the *state* your daddy...the claim that socialism is a way for everyone to get an equal chance is a lie, in my opinion. It's a way for a select few who think they are smarter than everyone to take away possesions, property, and wealth that DO NOT belong to them and distribute them as they see fit.

I see any collectivist system (socialism, marxism, you name it) as a total abomination that goes against what it is to be a human, and to be a free and individual human being. You can have your all powerful state if you want. But leave me out of it.

Let's not even get into the unvelievable horrendous human rights violations that we have seen as a result of socialism, and that are obviously the logical conclusion of any attempt to implement it anywhere in the world. Let me guess "that wasn't real socialism.. socialism has never been tried"... yeah right.

You can't have soclialism or communism without a brutal dictatorship.

And just because you don't have a big house and a Lexus.. doesn't make you 'oppressed'!!

Also, just so you don't get the wrong idea.. I believe in taxing people to help those in need, and especially to help people have health care.... but I'm for free market all the way... there's plenty of room for all that in capitalism... plus, look how much the system is being abused right now.

Heyo
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC