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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:52 PM
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I must rant about my freeper father again.... (I really gotta move)
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Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 04:54 PM by noahmijo
Okay here we go again, it all started when he came home today and asked me nicely I will admit to remove the "Re-Defeat Bush" sticker from my car.

I live in his home, and he wants it removed so that when my uncle comes in from NY we don't have any pointless fights and I agree because my uncle is very stubborn and will just be sore and then some and won't even listen to whatever facts I put in front of him.

He said I should keep the Kerry stickers though. The thing is I've swayed my father over to the side of fence sitter but what happens is he is such a damn gun maniac and the classic example of a "back your government NO MATTER WHAT" type that he actually ponders why we don't just nuke the fuck outta Iraq why are we pussyfooting.

I've been constantly explaining over and over again our history with Iraq, and the fact that if anything the REAL terrorists were thrilled about us going to war with Iraq. It's very similar in my opinion to invading Russia during WW II (The Russians were Stalinish mean motherfuckers whom many suffered unders, BUT they weren't the enemy at the time, they weren't the ones looking to invade America THE NAZIS were The JAPENESE were, but NOT the Russians, and what we just did was invade Russia during WW II GET IT????

That's not even a good example, cause the Russians at one time actually backed Hitler before he foolishly betrayed them, but still you get the idea.

So the thing is I get this point across I spend hours doing it, 5 minutes of that fucking scumbag Savage and boom we're back to square one, liberals hate America, and hate our troops cause we won't let them blow up Iraq.

Okay so today the gun issue again he keeps bringing up "well see the thing is Noah the liberals I work with at the attourney's office hate guns in fact the county attourney has actually stated that she would be comfortable if she could remove all our guns from our hands"

Now here's the thing. First off this attourney is the reason he has a job. Secondly, I am a gun owner, or a "gun-nut" I own more guns including assault rifles (all bought with an FFL liscence thanks to my pops) and I disagree STRONGLY with the notion of removing everyone's guns a la Hitler style.

BUT, the record shows this woman talking about how she wishes she could do it but then saying how she knows it would not be possible. What's more I wonder if our conservative leaning paper which quoted her as saying this has taken her out of context.

Lastly, every bill she has sponsored proposed or signed, as a gun owner I AGREED with them, I do think adults who let their kids get ahold of their guns and harm or kill others with should be held responsible, there SHOULD be NO loopholes at gun shows, there should be background checks THESE are the things this woman has pushed.

Unbelievable I think I know my father's employer in this respect better than he does.

But anyways not withstanding her strong anti-gun statement in my opinion there are far more important things at stake. I say these statements to my father and he just walks away or with a wave of the hand "I've no time to listen I gotta go" just as I'm about to deliver a good argument.

I am 22, and the way I see it, my generation and the one after me is about to be saddled with the worst deficit in history, inflation will increase, my tuition at the UofA has increased by 33% most of it due to the unfunded mandates of the state, my girlfriend aspires to be a teacher, and under this current administration Bush has a "FUCK YOU TEACHERS!!!" plan that he is not looking to change anytime soon, and then this war on Iraq has left us open even more to terrorism AND guess who's up to be drafted should it come back? and for what? So Mr Potter (Cheney) can rake in a few more profits?

So just taking just this alone I ask am I supposed to hold my nose and accept all this just so that I can stick to a pro-gun repuke? first off Bush ain't even pro-gun so let's not even go there, he supports the AWB too, but the point is THIS issue is more important than the ones I just listed above???

I don't think so, I am actually enraged that my father completely ignores the above mentioned issues in favor of the precious right to not have to be hassled when trying to buy a gun or an assault weapon.

Well all I can say is it's a damn good thing that if the repukes win that I will "get to keep my guns" I'll need them to fight off the terrorists they have been ignoring or helping out over the last couple of decades, and when the girl and I are both out of college and both working full time and we still can't afford the bills due to inflation, I guess I will have to thank to the Repukes for not taking away my assault rifles so I can now go and rob a bank just to pay the month's rent. (Joke I would go homeless before I would commit a crime like okay Ashcroft if you're reading this you fucking piece of filth that looks like Issac from Children of The Corn!)

So to end it on the issue of Iraq dad is bitching how our soldiers keep having to offer truce offers and avoid blowing up some mosque and he says "when you're at war you're supposed to just do it right dammit!" and I said "well what the hell are we over there fighting for? WHO are we fighting? those people who are holed up in that mosque what did they do? did they plot to hijack planes and crash them into buildings? we're fighting the wrong fucking war, we attacked a nation that never threatened us never sponsored terror against America, and now we got our soldiers over there dying and losing limbs for no reason, and let me say this, just what the fuck would YOU do if all of a sudden our house got bombed, mom and my girl died, I lost my arm and leg? you would pick up your assault rifle and start shooting back? you wouldn't be pissed? that's what these people are! sure there are terrorists there NOW there are! now that Saddam isn't there to hang Muslim extremists by balls they're there now!

I tell you what if a group of ANYBODY invaded this country and started dropping bombs on the Cathedral I attend I would sure as hell get fired up to waste them, and that's the whole thing, and given the fact that even this administration knows that this war is bullshit we're not fighting to kill terrorists, we just invaded a nation that is now full of citizens whom are pissed off that we tore up their houses and made guts out of their loved ones.

I told him it'd be different if let's pretend Saddam did just go in and drop a bomb on California or something. Yes THEN I'd say we gotta destroy that bastard and his infrastructure. Of course I wouldn't advocate purposefully killing civilian casualties, but let's be honest THAT would be a war that I doubt many would protest, if Saddam came and bombed one of our cities and his people were running around screaming "haha! death to America! you die infidel!" then I'd be all in favor of "shock and awe"

But guess what? that ain't the case and it never was THAT'S the fuckin problem, and people like my father just don't get it, they wanna act like armchair generals they wanna act like they know all about war and who we're fighting but they don't get that they just made the true enemy light up a cigar and celebrate.

I dunno I tried to get this across and he just walked away from me, so great now we're on bad terms again. I am a weak little liberal who wants to appease terrorists who are murdering our soldiers and that's that ::eyes::


Ahhh okay I feel better now thanks DU.
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