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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:32 AM
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35. I hope to God they do. Haiti financed Simon Bolivar and was instrumental
Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 11:35 AM by Tinoire
in helping Venezuela, Colombia gain their independence. Bless you JudiLyn for your comforting post.


Statue of Haitian President Alexandre Petion, immortalized on the Champ de Mars of Port-au-Prince, Haiti, where he is revered as the father of the Panamerican movement, who helped Simon Bolivar to liberate South American countries such as Venezuela and Colombia.


Historical bay of Jacmel, Haiti, birth place of the Venezuelan and Columbian flags. The red and blue in either of these two flags symbolize Haiti's contribution to the independence of these neighboring sisters countries joined by the eternal vast sea/ocean that connects all of humanity fluidly on planet earth.


Haitians of all colors freely coexisting while pursuing the universal human search for: Liberty, Equality, Justice, Security, Fraternity and human happiness on a beach in the vicinity Jacmel, Haiti W.I. region made famous by the past historical encounter and negotiation between Alexandre Petion and Simon Bolivar in their search for the liberation of their brothers and sisters in South America who were still under the yoke of Colonial powers.



Statue of Simon Bolivar the Liberator of Columbia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Peru and Bolivia immortalized near the Torch of Friendship at Bayside, Miami, a reflection of the cultural, historical and international diversities of this community.


Simon Bolivar a native of Venezuela, also known as the Liberator, proclaimed his country independent around 1812, but was later defeated by the troops of Ferdinand VII of Spain and was forced to flee to Jamaica with his companion of arms at the end of 1815. From there he went to the southern city of Cayes, Haiti, where he and his peers were well received by the Haitian General Marion and the population. He later made his way to the Capital of Haiti, Port-au-Prince, where he met with Haitian President, Alexandre Petion who supported his noble causes for independence and nicknamed him "the author for independence in South America". In the city of Cayes, Bolivar received weapons and ammunitions and was even granted the permission to enroll Haitian freedom fighters who wanted to devote their life for this noble cause of liberty. President Petion only ask one thing of Bolivar: to liberate the slaves in all the countries that he would have liberated. Bolivar returned to his country ready to put his pledge to Petion into action and began by liberating his own slaves on his plantation of San-Mateo. However when he proclaimed general freedom for all slaves, all slave-owners and even his own lieutenants turned against him and was forced again to seek exile in Haiti, this time in the city of Jacmel where he spent six months, it was in the Bay of Jacmel (Southeast city of Haiti) that the design of the flags of both Venezuela and Colombia were conceived. He later returned to South America after many struggles and fierce battles, Bolivar and his army made in part of Haitian freedom fighters defeated the Spanish Imperial army in Colombia and won that country independence in 1819. He liberated his country Venezuela, this time for good in 1821 and Ecuador in 1822. As President, he helped the unification of Venezuela, Colombia and Ecuador into the Gran Colombia. He also helped with the liberation of Peru and Bolivia (Upper Peru) which was named after Simon Bolivar, one of South America's greatest liberator.

http://www.geocities.com/ndorestant/haiticol.htm

What is beautiful for me as a Haitian, is that the OAS, Organization of American States, will NEVER EVER forget what we did to spread real Democracy in the Western Hemisphere & that the OAS will always be a thorn in the side pf Imperialistic America.

Even Clinton tried to do us wrong in favor of the corporations and he still managed to (as a leader of one country, your fidelity is to the way of life of your own countrymen so I understand. I do not accept, but I understand) but the OAS refused to budge more than half an inch and insisted he restore Aristide to power. Clinton did but, to humor the US corporations, tied Aristide's hands so badly behind his back that now we have this mess.

Thank you for you kind post. This morning it meant a lot to me. This morning, for the first time ever, I am drinking in the AM.

When people like Clinton see "Free Labor" the crumbs are bigger for the laborers and there are still a few scruples involved. This angers me but I can at least pragmatically accept that it is better than nothing.

When people like Bush see "Free Labor", OMG, plantation whips are out and everything.

Aristide's crime? Asking the rich to pay a few pennies in taxes to progress from the destruction of the Duvalier regime (US financed all the way for several decades) and asking the US corporations to invest a few pennies (and I mean PENNIES) in social programs such as disability insurance for the slaves. That did not go over well in a NAFTA world.

Truly my friend, I am so heart-broken. I neither understand nor accept this evil.

There is fidelity in the Creole culture & Chavez, Castro live up to it. When Duvalier, the US henchman, needed more money for himself, he would literally phone the White House (didn't matter if it was Dem or Rep) and remind them that it would take Castro all of 10 minutes to distribute arms throughout the entire country. Enough to make progressives like you or me totally sick.

Do you know that Haitians came to the US to fight against British subjugation of the colonies?

Sorry. I'm a wee bit drunk right now because I am so pained by all of this but thank you. Venezuela will help Haiti as will Colombia and all other countries in the Western Hemisphere that Haiti aided to pursue independence from British/US imperialism.



Related thread here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1164652




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