Reply #58: What's your evidence they are not interested? [View All]

[CreekDog]

Do you think if they calculated that they could impeach Cheney and Bush (which requires all Dems to vote for it and then another 16-17 Republicans in the Senate to go along also, which would include about 10 hard core conservatives and all the moderate Republicans).

Do you really think they would?

The barrier now is that this is only seen as a political scandal by the majority of the public. It is seen as a legal scandal by one third basically. To get where you want to go, you need two thirds to see it that way. To do that is uphill sledding and even if you could, you got 16 months at most to do it.

Holy cow.

No, it's not that they aren't interested, they are going to make those that want them to do it face up to the reality of how hard/impossible it is. If you guys face up to that, you may persuade them to take it on, but they've mostly been mocked and called Republican enablers even when they try to do the right thing by pro impeachment folks.

Walk in their shoes for a moment and think about why they might not do it and what might change their mind in favor of doing it.

And changing their mind doesn't probably begin with saying they have no morals and that they LIKE helping Bush and Cheney.

I mean, do they really ENJOY and WANT their opposition to do well?

I'm not buying it.

You know I was so mad I could spit after the supplemental, but this whole discussion is scapegoating the leadership for things they did not cause and they don't have the power to change.

I don't see what good it does to pull the rug of support out from under them if you want them to succeed. Seems like what you should do is say, press forward on these things and don't worry, we will support you even if you don't succeed. We will have your back.

Instead it's we don't support you unless you both take a risk and you succeed.

And think about how forgiving people were when they tried to defund Iraq and ultimately ran up against the Republican reality. Based on comments here, I would have thought the Democrats alone were responsible for that failure.

Man alive.