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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 01:49 PM Original message |
The Double Dip. Income disparity is so severe that its actually putting a brake on demand |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sorry for kicked my own post, but WTH :-) |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. You should repost in the Economy Forum |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Hmmm, thanks, might do that. |
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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Kpete, thank you. that chart is the start of the double dip. |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. dig out of a hole |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Gee, Um, you are correct....... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. "but seriously, when your money is spent on survival, there's none left for extras, who doesn't |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Thats the crux of why traditional consumer demand is gone. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Much of consumer demand was fueled... |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
50. Maybe you didn't hear....We are " pivoting " to jobs, jobs, jobs.. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. kick! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Inflation is destroying the purchasing power of the lower incomes as we speak. |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. k&r nt |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Thank you. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. Reader's Digest Condensed Version: People can't spend what they do not have. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Yup. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
15. Maybe that kitty can help us dig out. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. Did you see the thread about WalMart's bottom line is now being affected since shoppers don't have $ |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. There you go! k*r |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. U R welcome sir. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
18. I was at a group meeting with Corker's staff today |
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justabob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-02-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. exactly |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. What was their response? I am assuming they didn't agree with you. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Actually since it was a staffer, she didn't agree or disagree |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
23. where does that median individual income of $39K under clinton that drops to |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:34 AM Original message |
from my own experience, i'd say those figures are correct |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
27. your personal experience is not relevant. when i look at historical income tables i don't see this. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 03:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. you have a link with the statistic, but it requires you to do some work to find the numbers |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 03:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. i did the work. i don't see any such numbers. thus, i ask for a link. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. YOu are correct, I used a poor citation, this one |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
56. Well, no, because you are mixing individual and household income |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. from my own experience, i'd say those figures are correct |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. GINI index, Census bureau via wiki. For those of us that pay attention these |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. so well known for those superior beings "paying attention," yet still no link. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. 1st page of google search |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
25. And add austerity to this and we might be talking the big D |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Well yeah. JP Morgan says austerity will drop GDP growth 1.5% for 2012 |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I think JP Morgsn is optimistic |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Yes, exactly |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:51 AM Response to Original message |
26. k&r |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. But a good loon. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
30. Great post. K&R |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. Thank you sir. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. It's "ma'am". : - ) |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Thank you Ma'am, my apologies. |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
31. Robert Reich has been beating this drum |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. We hold these thruths to be self evident...... |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
32. MUCH worse than double dip... |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
34. Even Walmart is complaining that their customers |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
41. "Americans aren't that stupid, and often can make good choices." |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Right, the dog often works, too well. |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
48. SUCCESS!! Free trade is working!! n/t |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
49. I attribute Clinton's success to the explosion of the computer industry. We have that same thing now |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
51. Our small business is down 64% since 2007 |
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lunasun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. I thought I would be OK too if any thing happened by having some big fruit trees and garden also |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
54. Great and what should be an easily understood post but the willfully ignorant will find ways to not |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
57. Doesn't look like we'll ever debrief delouse and debush. |
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