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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:30 AM Original message |
Are Democrats this stupid? A trigger option in 2 years if insurers don't tow the line? |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. If the American people give -- |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I agree, at least until new blood comes into the party /nt |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. There should be a ticker in times square showing how many people |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. it's a Bullshit Move to Con us into Voting for them in 2010 |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I certainly hope not /nt |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. BINGO |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Bidness as usual. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Almost correct. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
3. A million corporate lawyers that will find a loophole. DUH! |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. The trigger will never activate. They know it, we know it. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. Actually, I think it would - |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
7. yes,many Democrats are this stupid |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
9. No, complicit. It's up to these Dems' constituents to pressure them. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. You are right, It is more important than ever now /nt |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
10. The corporate Democrats run the party |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
12. Call me what you want, I believe the trigger will work IF it's |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Define "written properly"... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. You know what... you're right. |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. The problem is the trigger will never be activated. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Perhaps... in which case it'd be more corporate welfare. |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Sure they would |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Those unable to pay get subsidies... |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Yes some subsidies on the premium |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Are you positive the deductible would apply as well, |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. No one is positive about anything- but I would bet on it. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Not asking you to compromise... |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Its from watching the corporations screw us for decades |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I was only asking a simple question. |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. heh I am not yelling at you- sorry if it seemed so |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I edited my post... |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. You have brought up a good point though |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. Not necessarily. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Good point... if it's structured so that the person has to pay ... |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. The trigger will never be activated |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
42. Mighty big "if". |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:44 AM Original message |
THE TRIGGER KICKED IN YEARS AGO |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
13. I disagree, things will seem better in two years, just long enough for the trigger |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
15. The republicans don't deserve another chance they had 8 years and did nothing. |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. in 2 years the majority may be gone..... |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
18. Yes, it appears they are |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
20. It's DLC, and they're not stupid; they're complicit. |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Yeah, winning never seemed all that important to the DLC |
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Paper Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
21. How about they make it happen now, save this "trigger until |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
23. That's "toe the line". (n/t) |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
27. If someone says "trigger" - say "shoot me now!!" n/t |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
29. It actually has sensible value |
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erehwon2 (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
31. The "trigger" is a scam |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
32. Until I see the terms of the "trigger", I can't comment on it's value |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
33. Call them and tell them |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
35. Trigger has blown off the hinges already-- private insurers have had over a decade |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
40. And then trigger following month, then week, then day by day. |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
44. Let's see the bill, it may be good and it may be bullshit nt |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
50. This is a "sweep it under the rug and hope no one notices" option |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
51. For Russian Roulette, a trigger is required. |
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