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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:30 PM Original message |
Hand counts differ significantly from Diebold counts in NH |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. IBTM. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Count away. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. That headline is a little misleading. |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Read the full article. NT. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I did. |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, there are differences, but... |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. The full article disputes these premises |
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DLnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
59. So you're saying "wealthier, more educated, and waspier" voters favor Obama? |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. College towns |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. these things always work in one direction-in favor of the more conservative candidate |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. Hand counts are mainly from small towns- like mine- Machine counts |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. And the article explains... |
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doublethink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Thank you for saying what I was looking into ...... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. and the exit polls show that the metropolitan areas voted for |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
10. Blackbox voting has a good article |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. Jesus Christ, there's no "discrepancy." |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Did you read the article ? |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Yes I read the article. Three times now. |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Typical --- calling those who disagree with you mentally incompetent. Typical. |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Yes, I did read the article. Twice. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Do you know the difference between "voter fraud" and |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I'm using the term "voter fraud" because that's what everyone else is using. |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Face it -- your candidate "Won", so you don't want to look at it. NT. |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. No, my candidate was Richardson. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
58. Then you should know that voter fraud is an extremely rare thing compared to election fraud |
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percussivemadness (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Those tend to be in the more urbanized areas, which supported "establishment" candidates John Kerry |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Just goes to prove what I always say... |
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percussivemadness (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. so....apart from the fact this has been written about for 4 years |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. So Internet nuts writing stuff on the Internet "proves" things? |
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percussivemadness (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Do you have any actual evidence that the vote was "stolen" |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
45. New Hampshire is a small state, and since the ballots are all paper |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Which blows another hole in the bat-shit nuttery. |
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percussivemadness (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. lalalalalalalalala - the world is fine and no facts will prove otherwise |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Which only re-inforces the fact that this is a good idea |
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doublethink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Who's 'us' ? |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. Goddamn. Is it singularly falling upon Dennis K. to save this country? |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
51. Seems more & more that if he was, we'd get some truth & action. n/t |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. Never underestimate the power of the dlc |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. The ballot order was also randomized from precinct to precinct. |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I've explained this before... |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Have you ever run an election with optical scanners? |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. And exactly how do you know that this is the way it is done? |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Ugh. |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. is that the Hursti Hack or Hello World? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. The machine has to know where each and every candidate is on the ballot, |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. The machine does not "know" candidates. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Have you ever done any programing? |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Yes I have. I run elections using optical scan ballots. |
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doublethink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Who do you run elections for? |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
55. I thought... |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
20. Love the "some people" are wondering line. |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. About half the people on DU apparently are... nt. |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I want a recount of your assumption. |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Take a poll then. Nt. |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Who pays for it? |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
28. From the article |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Again, assumptions are wrong. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
29. What would really help this problem of machines is if Oprah or |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
34. bill, poppy and blackbox voting machines |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
43. Misleading |
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