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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:49 AM Original message |
DU is proof |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. Duck and cover, fadedrose, but welcome! Clinton has many |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm not arguing any point whatsoever... |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Truthfully, what do they like about her? |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. that's a good question |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. In a round-about way, I think you just said that .... |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. LOL! |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. The few people I have met who like her |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
81. I've run in to THAT false belief too. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. So how well-informed could they possibly be? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
89. Since You Are Implying Hillary Supporters Are Dumb |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Sounds like they're rich |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. Ha Ha Ha |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #89 |
112. George W. Bush has an M.F.A. from Harvard |
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Timefortruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
90. You are right, |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #90 |
107. Hillary isn't polarizing |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #107 |
115. That makes so little sense one could almost call it "anti-sense" |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
108. I believe that you hit the nail on the head, CitizenLeft! |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
4. Spirited debate, interesting primary, and some good choices on our side. |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
8. Yeah. DU reflects the U.S. electorate... |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
67. Every time someone brings up the point... |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. "Speaking out against" |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. former Chairman of the DLC Tom Vilsack |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
111. They are both hawks. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #67 |
92. Thank you, Two Sparkles! Bingo! |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
132. The only way sampling is valid is if it is random |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
70. maybe because she has superior name recognition |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
93. Ding Ding Ding! |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
9. Welcome to DU, fadedrose |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I am very unconfortable |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I don't think the far left "hates" Hillary in the same way as the GOP.... |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. She would pardon all of Bush's crimes. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I am with you on that. Very unfortunate |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. You aren't under the impression that we get to pick our nominee, are you? |
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FatDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
36. You may yet be surprised |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
14. You can move on. I don't hate HRC, nor do my neighbors. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
15. when, oh when, are people going to grasp the simple |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. can I k&R your reply? |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. I have no idea who my neighbors are supporting. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:26 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I'm in Mass also |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. The national media is propping him up. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Another favorite: "Well, *I* have never been polled." |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #15 |
37. Thank you |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
17. K&R |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:32 AM Response to Original message |
18. Whenever I need to prove anything, I immediately consult the experts at DU. |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:43 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Someone agree with your position... |
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bob4460 (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
19. IF HRC wins we WILL have the repug for pres n/t |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. She Would Kick The Rethuglican's Ass The Way She Kicked Obama's And Edwards' Ass |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. why do people labor under the delusion that they have a crystal |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
130. Cali, I entirely agree that Clinton can win. |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Come back and talk to us when you have a star, mate. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
94. That's TOTAL bullshit!! You're putting down someone who doesn't have a STAR??? |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 11:58 PM Response to Reply #94 |
113. Now YOU I'll listen to. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #94 |
133. What foolishness |
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Tactical Progressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
21. That's a fantastic endorsement for Hillary as President |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
102. bull. they just hate her because she's clinton's wife... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
23. DU Is To Rank And File Democrats What The Hell's Angels Are To Motorcyle Enthusiasts |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. ROFL |
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watercolors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. You got that right, good analogy! |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. Yyyup. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
51. lol |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
60. Good one! |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
61. You're going to win a DUZY for that one. n/t |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
75. LOL. I love the analogy. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:44 AM Response to Original message |
27. DU is proof - the sequel |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
62. Ya, but |
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Bongo Prophet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
74. Can you please NOT insult the other "wannabe leaders"? It will HELP Hillary. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
95. And the rank & file on DU have been ABSOLUTELY CORRECT |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
28. On the contrary. I think people are sick of anti-Clinton shit. |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. not true...do you see biden haters?edwards haters? kucinich haters? |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #41 |
138. Because she's the one clear obstacle in the way of any non-Clinton candidate? |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
30. Oh jeez |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. It's not exactly an insignificant detail. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
32. "suspicious" |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Monica |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. The "Monica thing" was a private matter that was sniffed out by right winger, Lucianne Goldberg and |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. I know |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. The right wingers "conspired" to make public the Clinton/Monica relationship. That's my point. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
109. Monica was the one thing they ever had anything right about |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
35. If no one likes her, then she will lose the primaries by a very large margin |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. The Problem With That Is |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Also |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
86. I Like Her Voice |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. I could be |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
134. I don't like her voice |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. Woke up this morning |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
97. You're forgetting who owns & programs the voting machines. nt |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
39. My neighbors are Republicans and hate gays....some of my Democratic acquaintances |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
45. I like Hillary as a person |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. Hillary's supporters are much like bush supporters were. It's all image and no substance. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. Thanks for providing a ton of "substance" with your statement. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I've asked Hillary supporters repeatedly what issues and solutions their candidate has that |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Are you suggesting that Hill prefers "military solutions" over negotiation? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. I've been checking out her website since Feb 2007. I've seen her votes |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. This is Hillary's "position" on NAFTA. |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
49. I think Hillary has a bad rap ... |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. She makes her own bad rap |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
79. No star. |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. What? |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
101. Still speaking for THIS DUer! |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #79 |
103. I hear-by loan this newbie my star |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. I can't believe the Star nonsense |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. good attitude |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #105 |
114. I don't think your opinion is worthless. |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Unbelievable |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #117 |
135. lol |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #105 |
125. That's about par for Hill's Shills. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Doesn't That Contradict The Meme That HRC Supporters Are Uninformed Idiots |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Not in the least. |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
131. Hillary's bad rap is not based on campaign contributions |
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KnaveRupe (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
100. Her bad rap on DU does NOT come from RW talking points. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
52. Thank you. |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Alleluiah and Amen |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Thank you! |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
56. I'm not a Hillary partisan by any means, but have to admit |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
57. You are so correct. Thank you for this post. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
59. I know an HRC supporter |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
64. Word. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
65. DU is representative of nothing but DU. Were it otherwise, |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
71. you nicely hit most of the anti-Hillary talking points |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Shrill - |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. I'm not sure |
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ihelpu2see (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
80. would have to agree, here in CT and I have mentioned it on DU |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
88. Hillary nomination = most risk for the least democratic gain. |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #88 |
98. Because |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
96. Exactly, Why is HRC being shoved down our throats? |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
104. DU is proof? |
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roxnev (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
106. It is not HRC fault |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
116. Agreed. And there are great Dem candidates: all of the others. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
118. DU Is Proof that the Freepers are playing Divide and Conquer |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #118 |
122. This is not as much fun as you think.. |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
119. I'll 55th that Emotion |
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DianaForRussFeingold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
120. Honestly,I Don't See Much Difference Between Her And LieBerman... |
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Unca Jim (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
121. Of course I don't have a star so my opinion means nothing... |
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DianaForRussFeingold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:57 AM Response to Reply #121 |
123. I would love if she would stand up, against war ... |
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leftrightwingnut (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
124. What disturbs me most about HRC is the Murdoch connection. |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Not very encouraging - Good links, bad news |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
129. my fiancee likes her |
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Lil Missy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
136. How can you say no one cares for her when she is the overwhelming frontrunner? |
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