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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:00 AM Original message |
The last time riots disrupted a political convention, the Party lost |
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coloradodem2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. I agree. |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Well, that would be logical thinking, and I'm afraid that's out of style |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. I agree... |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. But which mediawhore network is going to SHOW that image? |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
3. Because those riots were blamed on the left. The new riots would be, too. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Daley's image suffered more than the yippies |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. You recall wrongly. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Yep, it really devastated Daley |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Think the Daley machine had anything to do with that? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Definitely. |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I don't encourage violence, but let's stick to the facts |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Well said! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Well said and right. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. A more charitable interpretation: |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. I' m really sick of the revisionism too...anger was directed at Daley |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. That's only half the story. The other half is that the protestors caused a |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Please back that up. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. White southern and suburban men |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. I remember. That's all the backup I need. |
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buycitgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. exactly!!!!! and that's exactly what will happen |
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banana republican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. Synchronized toilet flush ROTFLMYA |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
7. We're ahead. Why give Rush LImbaugh material, to rant |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. well, he'll just make crap up anyway, as usual; |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I will be here. I will dress as usual (non freakish) |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
13. and 1968 was a fair,above-board, Nixon election, too! NOT! (eom) |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. In '68 and '72 when there were riots, Republicans won both elections |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Prove that "middle America" associated the rioting itself with the Dems. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. See above. Buchanan said about '68 that they stopped trying to spin |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I honestly don't think "riot" when I think Miami 1972. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Repubs win when people think their strong issues are the most important |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. In My Life, Clinton talks about the rioting in Miami. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. I'm not doubting there was rioting. I'm only saying it had little effect |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Except that it gave Republicans a clue that if there were bigger riots in |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Nonsense. Nixon won for a variety of reasons. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
50. One of the biggest reasons: selling self as law and order president to |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. You're partly right. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. The "Law & Order" BS was really racism directed at the uprisings |
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digno dave (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
18. I'm afraid the fanatical wing of our cause is going to f things up and |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I'm afraid the pablum wing of our cause is f'ing things up. |
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nefarious (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Or maybe some repuke likin' instigators. . . . |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. Because the media will focus on the violent extremists that are anti-bush |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #33 |
72. Geez, could you make my point any more for me? |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
25. Comparing this to the 68 riot is comparing apples to oranges. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I tend to agree with you, Dr. But one thing gives me pause. |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Yeah, the media's the wild card. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. This "Antagonize the Police" approach concerns me.... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. What antagonize the police thing? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. There's been a lot of talk about how the police are going to go nuts |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I've seen relatively little of that. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I still don't know what anyone is protesting about to be honest |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. We are protesting Bushism. Top to bottom. Beginning to end. |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Golly Gee Whiz. Theboss doesn't understand the protest. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I live in DC. I'm jaded. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. You were impressed by the Promise Keepers? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Dude...... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Well, a gazillion certainly is a lot more than 100,000. |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Gee Golly Whiz. Theboss was impressed by the Promiskeepers. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I was...... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
69. How old are you, Dr. Weird? |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. No. Like I said, I wasn't around. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I don't see anything flawed with your thesis, doc. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
29. I guess that's |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
36. **COULD I get your all's ATTENTION for a moment? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Thank you! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 01:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. One thing that always irks me is the tendency of the left |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
53. 2004 is a lot different from 1968 |
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dancing kali (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
54. What did rioting get us? |
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Stone_Spirits (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Chicago was determined to be a "Police Riot" |
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nefarious (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Two other pivotal events ended Vietnam war and ousted Nixon |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. I don't think anyone went to Chicago intending to riot. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
68. He'll be able to say that people against him are the kind of people... |
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